[Vision2020] RE: 1912 Center (was RE: "Liberals" Slammed For Pro-Business CBD Stance?)

[Saundra Lund]

Hi Again Mr. Crabtree,

Thank you for the clarification!

Not that I agree with your assessment of the 1912 Center, but I do
understand your point.  If you -- or anyone else -- is interested in
learning some of what's being considered to address the concerns, you might
want to listen to the audio presentation by the Mayor's 1912 Center Use
Committee.  The audio file is available at:
http://www.ci.moscow.id.us/cityclerk/2005minutes.asp
The presentation was during the Dec. 19, 2005 Council meeting, and I'd be
interested in learning what others think of some of the ideas being
discussed.  While I do view the 1912 Center as a community asset, I
understand at least some of the concerns expressed by others and am
interested in seeing what kind of win-win solution we as a community of
creative problem-solvers can come up with.


Thanks,
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
Edmund Burke

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-----Original Message-----
From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:43 PM
To: Saundra Lund; 'vision2020'
Subject: Re: 1912 Center (was RE: "Liberals" Slammed For Pro-Business CBD
Stance?)

Ms. Lund,
  I was referring to before donations were solicited. I realize that now
that the most expensive money of all,"free money" and contributions have
been poured into it that we are pretty much stuck with this giant cash sink
hole. While I personally would still favor trying to sell it off to recoup
what ever we could, I realize the difficulties with that course of action
and acknowledge that it's not likely to happen.

g. crabtree
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>; "'vision2020'" 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: 1912 Center (was RE: "Liberals" Slammed For Pro-Business CBD
Stance?)


> Hi Mr. Crabtree:
>
> In part, you wrote:
> " As to the 1912 bldg. tearing it down to provide parking for high 
> school students strikes me as a lousy idea. The real solution would 
> have been to sell it to a private developer to do with as he would. A 
> tax asset rather than a burden."
>
> I know the 1912 Center is a contentious local issue with good, IMHO, 
> points on all sides, but I've a question.  If your suggestion was 
> followed, what would be the response to those private individuals who 
> donated to preserve the 1912 Center as a *community* asset?  Do you 
> think they'd be likely to contribute to future community projects if 
> they feared their donations to the community were going to quickly be 
> turned over to the private sector for the benefit private individuals 
> rather than the community?
>
> Or, am I misunderstanding your suggestion?
>
> Whether one agrees or disagrees with the decisions that got us here 
> with the
> 1912 Center, we are where we are.  In addition to the time and energy 
> invested by the City and the community in the 1912 Center, there were 
> substantial donations solicited to preserve the building as a 
> community asset.  I have concerns about how willing individuals would 
> be to make further contributions -- financial and otherwise -- to 
> community projects if those projects are turned over to line the 
> pockets of individuals.  Of course, that cost might well be very 
> acceptable to some . . .
>
> Of course, I don't have any magic answer that will satisfy all sides, 
> nor do I know enough to have a very informed opinion.  However, I did 
> attend a City Council meeting back in December where the Mayor's 1912 
> Center Use Committee made a very informative presentation from which I 
> learned a little more.
> I
> was hoping to see some discussion on V2020 about those suggestions and 
> possibilities -- does anyone care to share their thoughts?
>
>
> JMHO,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
> do nothing.
> Edmund Burke
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2005, Saundra Lund.
> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 
> forum without the express written permission of the author.*****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of g. crabtree
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:51 PM
> To: Pat Kraut; vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Liberals" Slammed For Pro-Business CBD Stance?
>
> Ms. Kraut, The pesky question that you pose is quite irrelevant. 
> Parking is not the real concern and it never was. There are folks who 
> have an irrational fear of "androids" and they managed to get one of 
> their own onto the council. As to the 1912 bldg. tearing it down to 
> provide parking for high school students strikes me as a lousy idea. 
> The real solution would have been to sell it to a private developer to 
> do with as he would. A tax asset rather than a burden.
>
> g. crabtree
>
>
>