[Vision2020] HR 3855

[Mark Solomon]

For the satellite view of the Targhee:

http://maps.google.com/?ll=44.35626,-111.247559&spn=0.503717,0.950317&t=h

The line where the clearcuts stop is the boundary 
of Yellowstone Nat'l Park. It was and is an 
inexcusable disgrace. After they were done with 
the cut the local sawmills closed down as there 
was nothing else left to log.

But the bottom line is the FS is by and large not 
doing the bidding of the timber beast as 
obviously anymore. IDL does. The only reason 
they've slowed down up in the Priest is they've 
run out of easy pickings and run into determined 
opposition from Priest Lake homeowners some of 
whom are quite well connected. The Floodwood 
abuts no community and is virtually unknown 
unless you're a logger or a back-country traveler.

m.


At 11:10 AM -0800 1/8/06, Phil Nisbet wrote:
>Don
>
>What the amount of land has to do with it is 
>fairly simple.  You are citing a few thousands 
>of acres in one bad management area.  I was 
>citing among others, the Targhee Caribou where 
>the clear cutting was over a million acres, 
>which is almost more forested land than IDL 
>manages altogether.  You cite one small creek 
>drainage and I can return to USFS clear cuts 
>that covered complete River systems.
>
>Nobody is without sin here.  The USFS, the BLM, 
>IDL and private timber all have a lot of bad 
>record to live down.
>
>http://www2.state.id.us/lands/Areas/PriestLake.htm
>
>That is the Priest Lake SA for IDL and they 
>manage 184,000 acres total and cut 400-500 acres 
>a year.  There are individual clear cut areas on 
>the Targhee that are bigger than the whole 
>ownership in the Priest Lake SA.  So which is 
>more egregious?
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>>From: Don Coombs <mushroom at moscow.com>
>>Reply-To: mushroom at moscow.com
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855
>>Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:51:50 -0800
>>
>>
>>
>>Phil Nisbet wrote:
>>>Don
>>>
>>>Can you sing?  I am thinking of a Ren and 
>>>Stimpy tune that my boys taught me.
>>>
>>>The IDL has managed less than 10% of the 
>>>public lands in the state of Idaho and you 
>>>make the BS claim that IDL is responsible for 
>>>the most egerious errors in Land Management? 
>>>Care to back up your claim with anything other 
>>>than hot air?
>>>
>>
>>You could perhaps teach me the Ren and Stimpy 
>>tune, but I'm not sure you could show me the 
>>good side of IDL management.
>>
>>What does the AMOUNT of land you manage have to 
>>do with whether you make egregious errors in 
>>managing it?
>>
>>Mark Solomon and others on Vision2020 are more 
>>familiar with forest practices in this part of 
>>the state than I am, but even I would have 
>>suggested you check out the Floodwoods.
>>
>>Don Coombs
>>
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