[Vision2020] 02-25-06 LA Times: Trust the truth

Chasuk chasuk at gmail.com
Sat Feb 25 21:19:50 PST 2006


On 2/25/06, Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Slander and liable are not free speech.

Slander, as I understand it, is making a false statement that injures
someone's reputation.  Whose reputation did Irving damage other than
his own?

>  Knowingly making false statements with the intent to mislead is also chargeable.

What if Irving genuinely believed what he claimed?

> Irving knew that his statements were false.  He used his statements to sell
> a product.  The product he sold caused material harm to victims of the
> crimes he claimed were lying about their experiances.   His product had and
> has serious potential to cause additional harm.

I believe that Irving is a nutter, but I don't know, inarguably, that
he made his claims purely as a means of profiteering.  There are
sincere UFOnauts and Big Foot aficionados and even poor deluded souls
who believe they have been anally intruded by sinister ET's, so any
belief, no mater how ludicrous, is probably held by someone.  How,
exactly, did his victims suffered material harm?

> I am not sure that this makes him a martyr to anybody who is not already a raving Nazi
> lying sack of crap anyway.

You have made my point.  It is precisely the "raving Nazi lying
sack[s] of crap" whom we should fear.  The Austrians have merely
stoked the bonfires of these madmen.  Is that really advisable?



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