[Vision2020] Re: New hunting protocols

[Art Deco]

Janesta, et al,

Pat never ceases to amaze me.  In discussing the seriousness of 
injuring/killing another person in a hunting incident she includes the 
following statement:

"My father in law shot his brand new truck with birdshot one year."

Holy Wotan, Thor, and Odin!


For those that have studied political theory/philosophy there is the age-old 
debate over the question:

"Which is better?  A democracy (within a constitutional republic or not) or 
a benevolent dictatorship?"

Let there be no doubt -- for me, democracy wins by a long shot.

However, I am afraid that the responses in this thread wrought Pat Kraut and 
Matt Decker provide a great deal of potent ammunition for those arguing for 
benevolent dictatorship under the "The masses are asses" theory.


Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janesta Carcich" <janestacarcich at yahoo.com>
To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Re: New hunting protocols


> Pat,
>
> I have a friend... her father and brother were bird
> hunting one fall day in Pullman.... The father killed
> his son... a few years later, he killed himself.
>
> It is a BIG deal, believe me...
>
> Janesta
> --- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> You have misread my message but I am not sure how
>> 'simply' it was I would be
>> willing to bet you did it purposely. At 78 there are
>> other health issues
>> that might encourage not healing well from any
>> accident. Yes, 78 is a nice
>> life and different than 28 and dying from an
>> accident but that was far from
>> my point it will be sad for anyone and everyone
>> involved. My sympathies go
>> to Cheney...he shot his friend and I have known many
>> who have had these type
>> of accidents and how it affects their lives. My
>> father in law shot his brand
>> new truck with birdshot one year...it happens. I
>> have trouble believing that
>> some of you don't know some one who has had
>> accidents like this. I got my
>> first 30 30 because my fathers friend had to give up
>> hunting because of
>> being shot in the woods. It is live changing but not
>> as big a deal as the
>> press or dems are trying to make it out to be. Mrs
>> Clinton should recall the
>> secrets of her husbands administration before she
>> screams at Bush. They are
>> working very hard to make this a 'newsworthy' event
>> and if you read the
>> blogs on the news stations people are not buying it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa at moscow.com>
>> To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New hunting protocols
>>
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Pat Kraut wrote:
>>
>>  >Depends on which biased story you read. Katharine
>> said that they
>> were both
>>  >wrong...Cheney should have looked and Whittington
>> should have let
>> him know
>>  >where he was because he was approaching closer to
>> the party. An
>> accident. IT
>>  >WILL BE AWFUL IF HE DIES BUT HE IS 78.
>>
>>
>> Pat:  Are you implying that if he dies it won't be
>> so bad because he
>> is 78?  Are you implying that older people don't
>> have meaningful
>> lives?  Or that somehow their lives don't matter as
>> much?  Would this
>> matter be more egregious if the person was only 28?
>> Or have I simply
>> misread your statement?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  >I really do think the real story is
>>  >the white house press corp who have showed a
>> complete ignorance of
>> everyday
>>  >events in the US one more time. I cannot
>> understand how these
>> people keep
>>  >their jobs. The video of their attack of McClellan
>> is tragic to see.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Janesta Carcich
>
> "Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it 
> injures the hated."
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> ~ Coretta Scott King ~
> 1927-2006
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