[Vision2020] Is Dale's blog down?
TIM RIGSBY
tim.rigsby at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 10 21:17:50 PST 2006
Not down, but not updated since the 9th. I cannot get it to work at home
but I can get it to work at BSU. Maybe he has finally blocked those who he
disagrees with.
Tim
P.S. Carl, I did say BSU and I know that I have sinned against all that is
wonderful in Vandalville. Next time I come to visit Moscow, I will redeem
myself by spending lots of money on the bowling game in John's Alley,
drinking lots of cheep beer, and making friends with any of the new MPD
officers.
Dear Diary,
You know the one thing I can't stand about my dad? It's that he's so, well.
. . nepotistic. Drives me nuts.
Sincerely,
N.D. "P.P." Wilson
P.S. I wonder if Pizza Hut is hiring. I know Taco del Mar is. - October 5,
2003
Revolution is not a word but an application; it is not war but peace; it
does not weaken, but strengthens. Revolution does not cause separation; it
generates togetherness. -John Africa, Strategic Revolution
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> 1. RE: Infiltration by Tom Sperry (Phil Nisbet)
> 2. Re: Bowing (Art Deco)
> 3. Is Dale's blog down? (Scott Dredge)
> 4. RE: Is Dale's blog down? (keely emerinemix)
> 5. Re: Bowing (Art Deco)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:12:43 -0800
>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Infiltration by Tom Sperry
>To: rforce at moscow.com
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
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>Ron
>
>I am not sure about the other titles you list, but Constitutional Chaos by
>Andrew P. Napolitano, is a book defending Civil Liberties. Did you read
>his
>interview on his book by Reason Magazine?
>
>Reason: How do you feel about Alberto Gonzales as attorney general?
>
>Napolitano: He will be the first attorney general in American history,
>publicly, to be in favor of torture. The others may have been in favor of
>it
>privately, but Al Gonzales is in favor of it publicly. This is an untenable
>position to take.
>
>Reason: Should they get the death penalty—
>
>Napolitano: I don’t believe that the state has the moral authority to
>execute, so I don’t believe in the death penalty.
>
>Reason: Is there any reason to believe the PATRIOT Act has helped keep us
>safe from terrorism?
>
>Napolitano: We have not been attacked since 9/11. Who knows why? We wiped
>them out of Afghanistan. We inflicted enormous setbacks on them in Iraq.
>The
>government can take all the credit that it wants on the basis of the
>PATRIOT
>Act, but the government cannot point to a single successful prosecution for
>terrorist activity where the evidence obtained was under the PATRIOT Act—at
>least a successful prosecution that wasn’t overturned eventually. The
>PATRIOT Act creates one new independent crime, the crime of speaking. The
>rest of the PATRIOT Act does not create substantive crimes. It gives tools,
>unconstitutional tools, to law enforcers. They have used those tools, but
>they haven’t gotten a single prosecution for terrorist acts on the basis of
>it. They’ve gotten five prosecutions having to do with political corruption
>and drugs. One of the things that John Ashcroft gave to Congress in return
>for no debate was the sunset clause. The other was that the PATRIOT Act
>would only be used in the war on terror.
>
>Both of those promises have been violated. We know from newspaper accounts
>that the PATRIOT Act was used to gather information on political corruption
>in Las Vegas and against drug dealers elsewhere. The Intelligence Reform
>Act
>of ’04 gets rid of one of the sunset clauses.
>
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>
>With those response do you think he is doing Black Helicopters or are those
>the opinions of a person who wears tin foil hats?
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
>
> >From: "Ron Force" <rforce at moscow.com>
> >To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Infiltration by Tom Sperry
> >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:49:47 -0800
> >
> >If you enjoyed the citied title, you may wish to read the following from
> >the
> >same publisher. However, I believe the tome about the Black Helicopters
>is
> >out of print. The tinfoil hats are still available in the gift shop.
> >
> >Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder
> >Michael Savage
> >Trade Paper
> >
> >The brilliant best-selling author and sharp, sagacious prophet of the
> >airwaves Michael Savage has been diagnosing America's ills for as long as
> >he's been behind a microphone. Now, in his third and most instructive
>book,
> >he provides the remedy, ...
> >
> >Constitutional Chaos
> >Andrew P. Napolitano
> >Trade Paper
> >
> >In this alarming book, Fox News commentator Judge Napolitano makes the
> >solid
> >case that there is a pernicious and ever-expanding pattern of government
> >abuse in America's criminal justice system, leading him to establish his
> >general creed: "The
> >government is not your friend."
> >
> >Something for Nothing
> >Brian Tracy
> >Hardcover
> >
> >America's greatness comes from people working hard to fulfill their
>dreams.
> >But today that greatness is being undermined by people using the
>government
> >to steal other people's dreams (and money). Rather than participate and
> >innovate in the ...
> >
> >
> >Spychips
> >Katherine Albrecht , Liz McIntyre
> >Hardcover
> >
> >RFID, which stands for Radio Frequency IDentification, is a technology
>that
> >uses computer chips smaller than a grain of sand to track items from a
> >distance. And as this mind-blowing book explains, plans and efforts are
> >being made now by global ...
> >
> >
> >A Jealous God
> >Pamela R. Winnick
> >Hardcover
> >
> >The age-old war between religion and science has taken a new twist. Once
> >the
> >dedicated scientist-martyr fought heroically against rigid religionists.
> >But
> >now the tables have turned, and it is established science crusading
>against
> >religion, pushing...
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:14:43 -0800
>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bowing
>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Message-ID: <004c01c62ea8$8a89d4f0$6401a8c0 at opalpeakkiosk>
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>Talk about turning the other cheek!
>
>W.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Hansen
>To: heirdoug at netscape.net ; privatejf32 at hotmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Bowing
>
>
>Hey "No Clue" -
>
>
>
>I have something you can kiss.
>
>
>
>One guess what it is.
>
>
>
>Hansen
>
>
>
>"Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps."
>
>
>-Emo Philips
>
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>
>
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>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of heirdoug at netscape.net
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:04 PM
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bowing
>
>
>
>Jackie Woolf,
>
>
>
>So here is another question... "Why do the heathen rage, and the people
>imagine a vain thing?..." when will you 'bow' your neck... and "kiss the
>son?"
>
>
>
>lemeno Doug!
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:48:19 -0800 (PST)
>From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Is Dale's blog down?
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
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>I haven't been able to bring up Dale's blog all day.
>I wanted to see if he ripped into the 86 evangelical
>Christian leaders who have signed on to support an
>initiative to fight global warming.
>
>Full story at:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/national/08warm.html?ex=1139634000&en=1ccabbd777be635e&ei=5070
>
>-Scott
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:53:16 -0800
>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Is Dale's blog down?
>To: sdredge at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Message-ID: <BAY106-F1313C46BB7A9109E9A44E982050 at phx.gbl>
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>Funny, I had trouble getting onto the blog myself. I was willing, though,
>to take it as simply a Celestial hint . . .
>
>keely
>
>From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Is Dale's blog down?
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:48:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>I haven't been able to bring up Dale's blog all day.
>I wanted to see if he ripped into the 86 evangelical
>Christian leaders who have signed on to support an
>initiative to fight global warming.
>
>Full story at:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/national/08warm.html?ex=1139634000&en=1ccabbd777be635e&ei=5070
>
>-Scott
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:57:49 -0800
>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bowing
>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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>Michael,
>
>Thank you for posting what is beginning to be clearer and clearer to many
>even amongst your fellow congregants.
>
>Perhaps I should have included the scripture below so that Reverend Farris
>might have not missed the irony of the post I now repeat below the line.
>However, when a cult leader is intent on trying to discredit and to destroy
>those he sees as a serious threats such as J Ford, the running dogs are
>given their orders. Theirs is not to question why, but to mindlessly obey,
>especially when the orders come from one like Cultmaster Wilson who appears
>to think he is God or above God (and the running dogs apparently agree), as
>you point out.
>
>One of the defining characteristics of a cult is the fervid vengeance with
>which they egregiously pursue those like J Ford who have seen the truth and
>escaped. Or as Saundra Lund put it, "... achieved spiritual growth."
>
>Michael, you are to be congratulated for perceiving the extreme dissonance
>between the teachings of Jesus and the lunatic fringe teachings of Cult
>Master Wilson who dares to pass himself off as a Christian.
>
>You are to be even more congratulated for having the courage to speak out
>knowing the dire consequences his (She who must be obeyed) egomaniacal and
>megalomaniacal wrath might bring upon you.
>
>
>Turn the other Cheek
>
>
>
>Matthew 5:38 - 40 Young's Literal Translation of the Bible
>
>
>
>38 'Ye heard that it was said: Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth;
>
>
>
>39 but I-I say to you, not to resist the evil, but whoever shall slap
>thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other;
>
>
>
>40 and whoever is willing to take thee to law, and thy coat to
>take-suffer to him also the cloak.
>
>
>
>Judge Not
>
>
>
>Matthew 7:1 - 5 Young's Literal Translation of the Bible
>
>
>
>1 'Judge not, that ye may not be judged
>
>
>
>2 for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in what
>measure ye measure, it shall be measured to you.
>
>
>
>3 'And why dost thou behold the mote that is in thy brother's eye, and
>the beam that is in thine own eye dost not consider?
>
>
>
>4 or, how wilt thou say to thy brother, Suffer I may cast out the mote
>from thine eye, and lo, the beam is in thine own eye?
>
>
>
>5 Hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
>thou shalt see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
>
>
>
>
>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>deco at moscow.com
>
>
>Reposted:
>________________________________
>Gentlemen and Ladies of the Congregation:
>
>
>
>Below the line is a Vision 2020 post from J Ford, an apostate from the
>Christ Church Cult, followed by an extraordinary pious response from the
>Reverend Douglas Farris, a current Cult member in perfect standing.
>
>
>
>I repeat these posts for two reasons:
>
>
>
>1. I have received some interesting off-list comments to the first two
>posts in which I made reference to them.
>
>
>
>2. Most and very, very importantly, there is an incredibly important
>lesson to be learned and a volcanic revelation to be had from Reverend
>Farris's kind, caring words.
>
>
>
>
>
>First, let us carefully pore over Reverend Farris's most Christian comments
>so that we can appreciate their fundamental, perfectly and infinitely
>compassionate, merciful theological import:
>
>
>
>The elders at Christ Church don't care for all the needs of the members.
>Some members get help and then mature and grow up and are able to meet
>their own needs. Some members never learn to take care of them selves and
>desire constant support. "Some learn to eat meat and some keep sucking the
>bottle."
>
>
>
>To answer your question "what does one have to do to become part of the
>'many people' in your church that you would be willing to care for?" [sic]
>just keep drinking milk and crying and they will continue to feed and [sic]
>[sic]change one's stinky diaper!
>
>
>
>What an indescribably perfect example of the application of Christ's major
>dictum to "Turn the other cheek"!!!!!
>
>
>
>Reverend Farris firmly turns J Ford's other cheek and in a most
>illustrative Cult fashion verbally slaps the holy f**king hell out of it,
>attempting to permanently scar it with humiliation and abasement, all with
>saintly, pure motivation spawned by Reverend Farris's and the Cult's soul
>satisfying, unquestionably true Christian righteousness.
>
>
>
>Could any other utterance in recent history verify the perfect
>understanding that Cultmaster Wilson demonstrates of the true meaning of
>Jesus' words "Turn the other cheek" and the very reason for Jesus'
>existence? Certainly all of Jesus' writhing in horrific pain on the cross
>was meant to justify and to promulgate such truly fine acts of grace as
>illustrated by Farris's tender, perfectly merciful, awash in love words
>which flow generously and with beauty from the unquestionable teachings of
>his master, Douglas James Wilson.
>
>
>
>But wait! There's more.
>
>
>
>So supremely and indescribably perfect is this lesson of the true Christian
>meaning of "Turn the other cheek" that it could not have originated with a
>mere mortal!
>
>
>
>We are faced with the inescapable, astounding conclusion that Cultmaster
>Wilson is really an incarnation of God and Reverend Farris a tender
>incarnation of Mary.
>
>
>
>All of us who have greatly wronged the perfect and errorless Wilson (who
>now sits in final judgment of all) with our criticisms and slurs (which
>have certainly sprouted from the night soil of our ignorance) should now
>immediately prostrate ourselves and humbly beseech his divine forgiveness.
>
>
>
>Perhaps we should combine our labors to build a giant throne in Friendship
>Square. He may then choose to sit upon it as he directs the final whirling
>vortex of the Rapture sucking selected members and only selected members of
>the Christ Church Cult to the highest regions of heaven.
>
>
>
>Thank you, thank you, thank you Cultmaster Wilson and Reverend Farris for
>this overflowing with love, most revealing, and redeeming lesson.
>
>
>
>Wayne Fox
>
>deco at moscow.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>PS. Michael Metzler:
>
>
>
>1. Thank you illustrating your total, most pious, brimming with agape
>and saintly understanding of "Turn the other cheek" and other fundamentals
>of Christ's message by giving me the coveted, much sought after award of
>"the most vile intolerista there ever was." I am now the envy of all the
>gang gathered around the giant jar of pickled eggs at the Corner Club.
>However, I have already been informed that wickedly envious, more depraved
>others will soon be striving to wrest that invaluable, priceless award from
>me.
>
>
>
>2. You have my permission to post this entire message completely,
>without inserted comments, and exactly as formatted in your blog
>http://poohsthink.com/ to demonstrate to the Cult, especially the superior,
>sinless innocents from Nude Saint Andrews, the depth of wickedness and
>depravity there exists in the world, and why the world now needs Cultmaster
>Wilson more than ever before to bring Christ's message (which Wilson and
>only Wilson truly understands by an infinitely long ways) to fight such a
>fetid, flesh destroying, soul infecting cancer.
>
>
>
>3. Can we expect a response from you on Vision 2020 to my last
>installment on induction so that we can progress toward a discussion of the
>problem of evil? Or is responding to such a depraved, perverted agent of
>Satan now against your conscience and causes you to greatly fear for your
>very soul? (Or has a Cult Elder ordered you not to respond and you are
>bowing to his superior godliness, wisdom, and unerring knowledge of
>Christ's intentions by meekly and quite righteously obeying?)
>
>
>
>
>
>___________________________
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
>Sent: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:26:34 -0800
>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Doug Jones Says It Clearly
>
>
>
>Doug Jones, "Moderator" for Christ Church Elders says:
>
>
>
>"...we have many people in this body we aim to care for."
>
>
>
>You mean you don't "aim to care for" ALL of your members...just the select
>ones? Guess that's why some wives and some former workers and
>former/current members have been dumped unceremoniously - they weren't the
>right "many people in this body" that you care about much less for.
>
>
>
>Guess the logical question is: what does one have to do to become part of
>the "many people" in your church that you would be willing to care for?
>
>
>
>
>
>J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:05 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doug Jones Says It Clearly
>
>
>
>
>
>Yes Jackie,
>
>
>
>The elders at Christ Church don't care for all the needs of the members.
>Some members get help and then mature and grow up and are able to meet
>their own needs. Some members never learn to take care of them selves and
>desire constant support. "Some learn to eat meat and some keep sucking the
>bottle."
>
>
>
>To answer your question "what does one have to do to become part of the
>"many people" in your church that you would be willing to care for?" just
>keep drinking milk and crying and they will continue to feed and change
>one's stinky diaper!
>
>
>
>Lemeno, Doug!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Michael
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:58 PM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Bowing
>
>
>Doug Farris Wrote to J Ford:
>
>
>
>
>
>So here is another question... "Why do the heathen rage, and the people
>imagine a vain thing?..." when will you 'bow' your neck... and "kiss the
>son?"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Me:
>
>
>
>Thank you Doug. Less posting work I have to do trying to illustrate to the
>public that to critique Doug Wilson is to critique God.
>
>
>
>Michael Metzler
>
>
>
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