[Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses

Mon Feb 6 08:00:17 PST 2006

Sunil,

Isn't the war, a war on terrorism.Thus the war in afganistan, Indonsia, 
Phillipines, Iraq, and even Sudan. With all of these countries involved, I 
think its a little ignorant to say "this" war is about oil.

Secondly, If the oil in Iraq is being used to rebuild Iraq and make it a 
better country, isn't that a good thing?

>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>To: rhayes at turbonet.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:39:20 -0800
>
>Phil,
>
>Sometimes your leaps leave me amazed, and this is one of those times.  I 
>didn't see anything in Roger's post that comes close to being anti-Semitic, 
>and yet there you are with a pretty wild accusation.
>
>I think this war is in large part about controlling access to oil.  I don't 
>think 'it's all about the Jews.  And I think someone should be able to make 
>the first statement without being accused of the second.
>
>When you do that you take away the ability to have an honest discussion 
>about the war.  Instead of discussing the issue that was actually raised, 
>now we're off having a different discussion about an unrelated subject.
>
>Sunil
>
>
>>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>>To: rhayes at turbonet.com
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>>Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:06:07 -0800
>>
>>Roger H
>>
>>So, from your particular slant here, its perfectly OK that the radicals of 
>>the Islamic world decides to target people and countries for death and 
>>extermination?
>>
>>Your notions here remind me of the America First movement of the 1930's.  
>>In particular it reminds me of Charles Lindberg's speeches of that era.  
>>So when do I get to hear the other shoe drop, that same plaint that 
>>Lindberg used, "Its all about those darn Jews"?
>>
>>Phil Nisbet
>>
>>
>>>From: roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>>>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:21:20 -0800
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ted, the media is suffering from the same mentality as the American  
>>>public, cognitive dissonance. This means even though the truth is  
>>>staring us in the face, we would prefer not to know, or see, what's  
>>>really going on. As death, whether American, or Iraqi becomes all too  
>>>common, we will relegate that news further from the forefront of our  
>>>consciousness, and hence the front page of our papers.
>>>For all of our patriotic chest thumping, the recent waves of  indignation 
>>>about the cartooning of Mohammed and the resulting claim  that Islam is 
>>>trying to take over the world, the deaths are for, and  about, oil. We 
>>>need it, and they have it. This is the truth people  don't want to know. 
>>>But even our corporate oil President in his State  of the
>>>Union Address said, "we are addicted to oil." I sense that he feels  safe 
>>>in at last stating the truth about the war. He knows we will hear  truth, 
>>>but we will do nothing about it.
>>>Soon we will have to begin rating our SUVs and monster trucks in miles  
>>>per human life rather than miles per gallon. Even that will be  
>>>acceptable I fear.
>>>
>>>Roger Hayes
>>>Moscow
>>>
>>>
>>>>All:
>>>>
>>>>I was amazed and dismayed to read the Friday, Feb. 3, 2006 edition of  
>>>>the
>>>>Lewiston Morning Tribune, given the choices made regarding what  
>>>>deserves
>>>>front page focus, and what does not.  Four articles dominated the front
>>>>page:  one on wolves delisting, Bush seeking 120 billion more for wars,
>>>>Orofino teenagers, and something about a Lapwai man and Pres-to-Logs...
>>>>
>>>>Then I was astonished to read on the left hand lower corner of page 3 a
>>>>small article, with a tiny headline, notifying us that 5 more US  
>>>>soldiers
>>>>had died in combat in Iraq in the past week.
>>>>
>>>>I know that many Iraq war supporters think the US media focuses too  
>>>>much on
>>>>the negative news from Iraq, but does putting notice of the deaths in  
>>>>the
>>>>past week of 5 US soldiers, who gave their lives to defend us, deserve
>>>>nothing more than a tiny article with a tiny headline in the left hand  
>>>>lower
>>>>corner of page 3?
>>>>
>>>>Have we become that callous to the horror of the war in Iraq, to the
>>>>ultimate sacrifices of our soldiers when they die in combat, that
>>>>Pres-to-Logs are a more important subject?
>>>>
>>>>Or did the Tribune make a decision that the deaths of US soldiers in  
>>>>Iraq
>>>>are not the proper subject to best sell their newspaper at this time?   
>>>>Has
>>>>coverage of the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq become so easily  accepted 
>>>>that
>>>>they are not deemed newsworthy enough to be featured on the front page?
>>>>
>>>>Am I wrong to suggest something is amiss here in the Tribune's  
>>>>coverage?
>>>>What am I overlooking or overemphasizing?
>>>>
>>>>Ted Moffett
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