[Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses

Mon Feb 6 06:39:20 PST 2006

Phil,

Sometimes your leaps leave me amazed, and this is one of those times.  I 
didn't see anything in Roger's post that comes close to being anti-Semitic, 
and yet there you are with a pretty wild accusation.

I think this war is in large part about controlling access to oil.  I don't 
think 'it's all about the Jews.  And I think someone should be able to make 
the first statement without being accused of the second.

When you do that you take away the ability to have an honest discussion 
about the war.  Instead of discussing the issue that was actually raised, 
now we're off having a different discussion about an unrelated subject.

Sunil

>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: rhayes at turbonet.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:06:07 -0800
>
>Roger H
>
>So, from your particular slant here, its perfectly OK that the radicals of 
>the Islamic world decides to target people and countries for death and 
>extermination?
>
>Your notions here remind me of the America First movement of the 1930's.  
>In particular it reminds me of Charles Lindberg's speeches of that era.  So 
>when do I get to hear the other shoe drop, that same plaint that Lindberg 
>used, "Its all about those darn Jews"?
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
>>From: roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:21:20 -0800
>>
>>>
>>
>>Ted, the media is suffering from the same mentality as the American  
>>public, cognitive dissonance. This means even though the truth is  staring 
>>us in the face, we would prefer not to know, or see, what's  really going 
>>on. As death, whether American, or Iraqi becomes all too  common, we will 
>>relegate that news further from the forefront of our  consciousness, and 
>>hence the front page of our papers.
>>For all of our patriotic chest thumping, the recent waves of  indignation 
>>about the cartooning of Mohammed and the resulting claim  that Islam is 
>>trying to take over the world, the deaths are for, and  about, oil. We 
>>need it, and they have it. This is the truth people  don't want to know. 
>>But even our corporate oil President in his State  of the
>>Union Address said, "we are addicted to oil." I sense that he feels  safe 
>>in at last stating the truth about the war. He knows we will hear  truth, 
>>but we will do nothing about it.
>>Soon we will have to begin rating our SUVs and monster trucks in miles  
>>per human life rather than miles per gallon. Even that will be  acceptable 
>>I fear.
>>
>>Roger Hayes
>>Moscow
>>
>>
>>>All:
>>>
>>>I was amazed and dismayed to read the Friday, Feb. 3, 2006 edition of  
>>>the
>>>Lewiston Morning Tribune, given the choices made regarding what  deserves
>>>front page focus, and what does not.  Four articles dominated the front
>>>page:  one on wolves delisting, Bush seeking 120 billion more for wars,
>>>Orofino teenagers, and something about a Lapwai man and Pres-to-Logs...
>>>
>>>Then I was astonished to read on the left hand lower corner of page 3 a
>>>small article, with a tiny headline, notifying us that 5 more US  
>>>soldiers
>>>had died in combat in Iraq in the past week.
>>>
>>>I know that many Iraq war supporters think the US media focuses too  much 
>>>on
>>>the negative news from Iraq, but does putting notice of the deaths in  
>>>the
>>>past week of 5 US soldiers, who gave their lives to defend us, deserve
>>>nothing more than a tiny article with a tiny headline in the left hand  
>>>lower
>>>corner of page 3?
>>>
>>>Have we become that callous to the horror of the war in Iraq, to the
>>>ultimate sacrifices of our soldiers when they die in combat, that
>>>Pres-to-Logs are a more important subject?
>>>
>>>Or did the Tribune make a decision that the deaths of US soldiers in  
>>>Iraq
>>>are not the proper subject to best sell their newspaper at this time?   
>>>Has
>>>coverage of the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq become so easily  accepted 
>>>that
>>>they are not deemed newsworthy enough to be featured on the front page?
>>>
>>>Am I wrong to suggest something is amiss here in the Tribune's  coverage?
>>>What am I overlooking or overemphasizing?
>>>
>>>Ted Moffett
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