[Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited

[Phil Nisbet]

Sunil

Free speech rights do have limits.  There is the famous shouoting fire in a 
crowded theater example and for that matter there are incitement to riot 
examples.

But all of that goes beyond the factor at play here.  The Capitol Police 
work for the US Congress and not for the executive branch.  The rules 
regarding political T-shirts and general decorum are posted and have been 
there for decades.  They apply when Congress is in session and also apply 
when the Chamber is empty.  That has been the case under Democratic 
Administration and Democratic Congresses, nixed Congress and administrations 
and in purely Republican administrations.

If I walk into the Moscow City Ciouncil Meeting and babble verses from 
Yellow Submarine, I am not excercising my first amendment rights, I am 
disrupting the proceedings of government.  The City Council may also make 
rules that bar me from brining huge banners or even ban me from wearing 
certain clothes or going naked at council meetings.  They can bar me from 
speaking until times set up for public comment and can eject me from their 
porceedings if I chose to comment outside of the space made for public 
input.  Not one of those is an abrigement of my right to free speech.

The Congressman's wife who was wearing a Pro-Iraq Tshirt was asked to step 
outside.  Hauptsturmbahnfurher Sheehan was asked to leave as well.  The 
Capital Polices only fault here was in arresting one of them rather than 
simply ejecting her.  They gave her an apology fir having arrsted her, not 
for having her removed from the Gallery.

Phil Nisbet


>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited
>Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:03:49 -0800
>
>It was wrong to eject anyone for political speech.  If it happened when 
>Clinton was president (facts, Pat?) it would have been wrong then too.
>
>Bush's campaign has regularly ejected people at political events for 
>engaging in political speech.  What makes this one a little different is 
>that there was an immediate apology, and the actors denying the speech were 
>state agents.  The result is the same, however: citizens are denied their 
>right to free speech.
>
>Sunil
>
>
>>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited
>>Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:48:23 -0800
>>
>>They all did and also that a senators wife had also been ejected. Also, it 
>>has been done before during Clintons reign. I believe they have all 
>>apologized at this time.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Ellen Roskovich
>>   To: pkraut at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:37 AM
>>   Subject: Cindy was invited
>>
>>
>>   I watched the State of the Union speech on NWCN last night and they 
>>reported  Cindy was invited, but was arrested when she wouldn't cover the 
>>anti war t-shirt she was wearing.
>>
>>   Did any other news channels say this?
>>
>>   Ellen Roskovich
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