[Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Phil,

Gratuitous and inaccurate insults for Sheehan aside, is this a state 
restriction of free speech?

Sunil


>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited
>Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:04:50 -0800
>
>Sunil
>
>Free speech rights do have limits.  There is the famous shouoting fire in a 
>crowded theater example and for that matter there are incitement to riot 
>examples.
>
>But all of that goes beyond the factor at play here.  The Capitol Police 
>work for the US Congress and not for the executive branch.  The rules 
>regarding political T-shirts and general decorum are posted and have been 
>there for decades.  They apply when Congress is in session and also apply 
>when the Chamber is empty.  That has been the case under Democratic 
>Administration and Democratic Congresses, nixed Congress and 
>administrations and in purely Republican administrations.
>
>If I walk into the Moscow City Ciouncil Meeting and babble verses from 
>Yellow Submarine, I am not excercising my first amendment rights, I am 
>disrupting the proceedings of government.  The City Council may also make 
>rules that bar me from brining huge banners or even ban me from wearing 
>certain clothes or going naked at council meetings.  They can bar me from 
>speaking until times set up for public comment and can eject me from their 
>porceedings if I chose to comment outside of the space made for public 
>input.  Not one of those is an abrigement of my right to free speech.
>
>The Congressman's wife who was wearing a Pro-Iraq Tshirt was asked to step 
>outside.  Hauptsturmbahnfurher Sheehan was asked to leave as well.  The 
>Capital Polices only fault here was in arresting one of them rather than 
>simply ejecting her.  They gave her an apology fir having arrsted her, not 
>for having her removed from the Gallery.
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited
>>Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:03:49 -0800
>>
>>It was wrong to eject anyone for political speech.  If it happened when 
>>Clinton was president (facts, Pat?) it would have been wrong then too.
>>
>>Bush's campaign has regularly ejected people at political events for 
>>engaging in political speech.  What makes this one a little different is 
>>that there was an immediate apology, and the actors denying the speech 
>>were state agents.  The result is the same, however: citizens are denied 
>>their right to free speech.
>>
>>Sunil
>>
>>
>>>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>>>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Cindy was invited
>>>Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:48:23 -0800
>>>
>>>They all did and also that a senators wife had also been ejected. Also, 
>>>it has been done before during Clintons reign. I believe they have all 
>>>apologized at this time.
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Ellen Roskovich
>>>   To: pkraut at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:37 AM
>>>   Subject: Cindy was invited
>>>
>>>
>>>   I watched the State of the Union speech on NWCN last night and they 
>>>reported  Cindy was invited, but was arrested when she wouldn't cover the 
>>>anti war t-shirt she was wearing.
>>>
>>>   Did any other news channels say this?
>>>
>>>   Ellen Roskovich
>>
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