[Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq

[lfalen]

Saundra
Three are a lot of empty insincere platitudes on vision2020, not just Tony's.  I have tried to make it clear that I don't care for the uncivil behavior by Tony or anyone else.There is a lot of that on vision2020. Some of these  were mentioned in Ted Moffett's latest post. Ted Moffett is my idea for how one should properly post. I don't always agree with Ted, but he is usually  a gentleman and presents a reasoned and researched post.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Saundra Lund" sslund at roadrunner.com
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:11:33 -0800
To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, debismith at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq

> Roger Falen wrote:
> "Tony has been tring yo be more civil ( with some relapses)."
> 
> What fairyland are you living in?!?!?  Truly, Roger -- you've always
> impressed me as in intelligent man.  Surely you've not fallen for Tony's
> latest tactic of cushioning his insults of and attacks on individuals and
> groups between empty, insincere, and sarcastic platitudes?!?!
> 
> Besides, didn't your family or your church or your school or your friends
> ever teach you that you get back what you put out in this worlds?  Sometimes
> that accountability happens on Judgment Day, and sometimes it additionally
> happens here & now.  That some people are sick & tired of being attacked and
> maligned by Tony and others is perfectly understandable.  Indeed, one might
> think those responding to his nonsense are performing a community service
> :-)  It is feedback from our peers that helps us learn what is socially
> acceptable and what isn't, and as long as people try, there's always the
> *hope* that something might penetrate that thick little skull of Tony's.
> I'm not holding my breath, but . . . 
> 
> Roger also wrote:
> "Tony should be entitled to his opinion . . . "
> 
> Everyone IS entitled to their opinions, Roger, and it's rather disingenuous
> of you to imply otherwise.  However, with the expression of opinion comes
> accountability.  If Tony or others consistently choose to express that
> opinion in the hateful, insulting, and/or attacking manner that's become
> their V2020 signatures, then none of us should be surprised when they get
> back what they put out.  Lord knows that Tony & others have proven time &
> again that facts and reason mean nothing to them . . . 
> 
> Roger also wrote:
> ". . . do you think it is ok for those on the left to demean people with
> right wing view. Lets apply the same standards to every one."
> 
> Why, Roger?  You *certainly* didn't apply the same standards to everyone.
> 
> I'm incredibly disappointed that when someone who has been ***directly***
> attacked and harassed responds, you take her to task.  Yet you've ignored
> Tony's repeated sexual harassment of V2020 participants, you've ignored his
> racism, and you've remained silent about his ugly and vicious attacks on
> liberals, local and otherwise.
> 
> I'm disappointed, and I fear what you've chosen to remain silent about is
> just as telling as what you've chosen to speak out against in this instance.
> 
> 
> JMHO,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> - Edmund Burke
> 
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