[Vision2020] Logos Discussion:Amazonian Goddesses Do Battle!

[Ted Moffett]

All:

Posting again a post from over three years ago is no doubt inappropriate
from the point of view of some on Vision2020.  But given the current
discussion of female sports at Logos school, it is relevant.

This also offers me a chance to again try to publicly engage Mike Curley,
who once posted on Vision2020, in a substantive public discussion of the
ideas in this post, ideas which Mr. Curley, in his infinite wisdom, chose to
dismiss rather disdainfully on Vision2020, as though they were of no
merit, written primarily to "attack" a religious group.  Mr. Curley may not
read Vision2020 at this time.  But at least others can read my defense of
the ideas and intentions behind this post, a defense I had sent privately to
Mr. Curley, which I will post immediately after this post in a few moments:

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The very suggestion that Trinitarians' would model their sports programs on
the government school regulations mandating women's sports is unthinkable.
After all, "equality denies difference," to quote Doug Jones, and
Trinitarians' clearly think men and women are different in ways that mandate

they not be given equal treatment, both in chest exposure and exposure to
the rigors of sports.

I would love to match the buffed and trained female " amazonian" children of

gay Goddess worshiping feminist female parents (Don Kaag take note) in
battle against the Trinitarian boys.  Who cares about facts and reason,
let's settle this in battle, and let children and youth fight to promote our

cause!  Surely I jest, but after all, is this not how the dominant
ideologies of the world have spread their beliefs throughout history?

Let's not be so naive as to think that the violence of sports for male youth

has no connection to preparation for warfare.

No one should blink an eye at the endorsement of warrior sports for the
males being raised in a fundamentalist Christian tradition.  Christianity
has been spread by the sword when it could not succeed by "peaceful" means
to convert the natives.  This is a fact of history that of course will be
denied and put through the spin filters of those wishing to place
Christianity in a more favorable light.

But I don't mean to pick on Christianity here, though it is the dominant
religion of our country.  All MAJOR ideologies use violence to promote their

beliefs.  If someone can provide an counter example, I would be grateful.
In anticipation of exceptions I will comment that sadly the ideology of
pacifism is a NOT a major ideology in our world, nor has it ever been.

There is still time for pacifism to become a dominant ideology before the
prevalent attitude of the use of violence to settle conflict leads to
technological and scientific based warfare that could lead to the extinction

of the human race or to a result that will leave the survivors wishing they
were extinct.

Ted Moffett

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I thought your original attack of a religious group was
inappropriate on this list regardless of how much I might
disagree with the philosophy or practices of the religious
group.  I was offended by your characterizations, finger-
pointing, and labeling as I would have been had you
attacked my Jewish, atheist, Muslim, agnostic, Buddhist,
or other (non-"fundamentalist") Christian friends.  This is
indeed a public list, but I don't think that means that
anyone you want to criticize, and any way you want to
criticize them, is fair game.  However, since no one ever
seems to want to take the continuing religious philosophy
discussions off list, I would just ask one thing.  Please
retain the "subject" thread in continuing posts (amazonian
goddesses) so that the multitude of us who want can
readily identify and delete the messages.  Thank you.
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