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<div>Posting again a post from over three years ago is no doubt inappropriate from the point of view of some on Vision2020. But given the current discussion of female sports at Logos school, it is relevant. </div>
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<div>This also offers me a chance to again try to publicly engage Mike Curley, who once posted on Vision2020, in a substantive public discussion of the ideas in this post, ideas which Mr. Curley, in his infinite wisdom, chose to dismiss rather disdainfully on Vision2020, as though they were of no merit, written primarily to "attack" a religious group. Mr. Curley may not read Vision2020 at this time. But at least others can read my defense of the ideas and intentions behind this post, a defense I had sent privately to Mr. Curley, which I will post immediately after this post in a few moments:
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[ author ]</a> All:<br><br>The very suggestion that Trinitarians' would model their sports programs on <br>the government school regulations mandating women's sports is unthinkable. <br>After all, "equality denies difference," to quote Doug Jones, and
<br>Trinitarians' clearly think men and women are different in ways that mandate <br>they not be given equal treatment, both in chest exposure and exposure to <br>the rigors of sports.<br><br>I would love to match the buffed and trained female "
<span class="" id="st" name="st">amazonian</span>" children of <br>gay Goddess worshiping feminist female parents (Don Kaag take note) in <br><span class="" id="st" name="st">battle</span> against the Trinitarian boys. Who cares about facts and reason,
<br>let's settle this in <span class="" id="st" name="st">battle</span>, and let children and youth fight to promote our <br>cause! Surely I jest, but after all, is this not how the dominant <br>ideologies of the world have spread their beliefs throughout history?
<br><br>Let's not be so naive as to think that the violence of sports for male youth <br>has no connection to preparation for warfare.<br><br>No one should blink an eye at the endorsement of warrior sports for the <br>
males being raised in a fundamentalist Christian tradition. Christianity <br>has been spread by the sword when it could not succeed by "peaceful" means <br>to convert the natives. This is a fact of history that of course will be
<br>denied and put through the spin filters of those wishing to place <br>Christianity in a more favorable light.<br><br>But I don't mean to pick on Christianity here, though it is the dominant <br>religion of our country. All MAJOR ideologies use violence to promote their
<br>beliefs. If someone can provide an counter example, I would be grateful. <br>In anticipation of exceptions I will comment that sadly the ideology of <br>pacifism is a NOT a major ideology in our world, nor has it ever been.
<br><br>There is still time for pacifism to become a dominant ideology before the <br>prevalent attitude of the use of violence to settle conflict leads to <br>technological and scientific based warfare that could lead to the extinction
<br>of the human race or to a result that will leave the survivors wishing they <br>were extinct.<br><br>Ted Moffett<br><br><b>[Vision2020] <span class="" id="st" name="st">Amazonian</span> <span class="" id="st" name="st">
Goddesses</span> <span class="" id="st" name="st">Do</span> <span class="" id="st" name="st">Battle</span>! <br><br>Mike Curley <br></b></font></font></div>
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[ author ]</a> <color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Ted: <br><br>I thought your original attack of a religious group was <br>inappropriate on this list regardless of how much I might <br>disagree with the philosophy or practices of the religious
<br>group. I was offended by your characterizations, finger- <br>pointing, and labeling as I would have been had you <br>attacked my Jewish, atheist, Muslim, agnostic, Buddhist, <br>or other (non-"fundamentalist") Christian friends. This is
<br>indeed a public list, but I don't think that means that <br>anyone you want to criticize, and any way you want to <br>criticize them, is fair game. However, since no one ever <br>seems to want to take the continuing religious philosophy
<br>discussions off list, I would just ask one thing. Please <br>retain the "subject" thread in continuing posts (<span class="" id="st" name="st">amazonian</span> <br><span class="" id="st" name="st">goddesses
</span>) so that the multitude of us who want can <br>readily identify and delete the messages. Thank you. <br> </font></font></div>
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