[Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Mon Dec 11 12:10:20 PST 2006
I didn't say I was wrong to support Clinton. And stop assuming that you
know how I or any other woman feels about anything.
keely
From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:31:10 -0800
Keely, good to have you finally admit that you were wrong to support that
degenerate Bill Clinton. I agree with you that his behavior was "bad" and
yes it was distasteful. Yet you still voted for this abuser of woman twice
- even after repeated accusations of even far more serious actions including
rape. As a woman, you must feel tremendous guilt over having thus enabled a
sexual predator who took repeated delight in terrorizing your sisters.
It is however never too late to repent, and I applaud you for doing so.
Best, -T
----- Original Message ----- From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <pkraut at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
>Because the adult-age Lewinsky initiated the contact; the underage pages
>didn't initiate the contact in the Foley case.
>
>It's shouldn't be a Democrat vs. Republican, heterosexual or homosexual,
>missionary-style or more exotic sexual proclivities -- it really is,
>however
>distasteful, all about a horny adult man taking a seductive young woman up
>on her most unfortunate offer of adulterous sex. That's bad. It's not
>unprecedented, though, and the GOP's continuing fascination with sexual
>behavior seems to allow it to ignore other, equally glaring, harm toward
>people.
>
>Show me a GOP-led Congress taking up the battle to end the sex-driven slave
>trade, prison rape, domestic violence, broken homes, the AIDS epidemic,
>child sexual abuse and the sexual and social powerlessness of poor women
>and
>I'll be impressed about its commitment to family values and a right-living
>society. Until then, I'm afraid, I'll have to conclude that the Clinton
>impeachment was all about the Republicans' loss of power and not Monica
>Lewinsky's loss of innocence.
>
>keely
>
>
>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:50:15 -0800
>
>Or between a page and a congressman? If Miss Lewinski was a fair target why
>not pages??
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: g. crabtree
> To: Paul Rumelhart ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
>
>
> Why is the relationship between former President Clinton and Ms.
>Lewinski
>"consensual" when the tryst between a collage professor and a student is
>not? A boss and an underling? A guard and a prisoner? I was of the
>impression that any time there was such a huge disparity between the status
>of two people with regard to their stations in life that the concept of
>"consent" became at best vague and at worst unattainable. What divide could
>be greater than the gulf between a 23 year old naif and the nearly twice
>her
>age leader of the free world? I would content that the gulf between them
>far
>exceeds that of the rift between a 17 year old girl and her 21 year old boy
>friend and we all know where that lack of restraint leads. While the actual
>acts that occurred in and near the oval office may have been technically
>legal, there is no doubt that the concept of abuse is not out of the
>question. What is also certain is that it was an absurdly ill considered,
>vulgar, and characterless move on the part of someone who might reasonably
>have been expected to know better, even by liberal democrats. I very much
>agree with Tony in that when Ms. Lewinski looks back on this glittering
>moment in the spotlight it won't be with pride.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Rumelhart
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
>
>
> Tony,
>
> You keep trying to frame this as "abuse". It's not abuse when you
>have
>consentual sex with somebody regardless of what form it may take. I
>understand not liking the man because he was being adulterous or sexually
>depraved because of this, but let's not bring such emotionally-charged
>words
>as "abuse" into this without some kind of evidence to back it up.
>
> Paul
>
> Tony wrote:
>After that last post regarding Clinton's abuse of Monica Lewinski, It
>occurred to me that those with little knowledge of the Clinton fiasco might
>misunderstand my reference to his documented behaviors. I am concerned
>that
>some youngsters, unaware of the specifics of Clinton's abuse, might think I
>was using a slang term for the male reproductive organ when I reported that
>Clinton apparently inserted his cigar into intern Lewinski's private spot.
>In the interest of accuracy and out of respect for today's youth and their
>right to an accurate account of history, let me be clear: Former President
>Clinton was reported to have inserted a cigar, the kind he periodically
>smoked, into the aforementioned intern. He was also reported to have
>received oral sex while discussing sensitive national security issues with
>congressman via phone.
>
>Boys and girls, the left does not want you to learn what a depraved creep
>Clinton was. They adore him because he pushed for their political issues
>and causes so they deliberately ignored his abuse of woman. Said abuse
>also
>included several accusations or RAPE. I support the right of today's youth
>to be informed rather than manipulated, so the next time you hear about
>what
>a great guy ole Clinton was, you can refer to this message for the truth.
>
>Just hit print and thank me later.
>
>Peace out, -T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
>
>
> Just as there will always be those who insisted on abandoning the South
>Vietnamese and Cambodians to communist tyranny, there will always be those
>who deny the written historical record regarding our liberation of Iraq.
>
>Clinton, a clinical, megalomaniacal psychopath, hasn't a sincere bone in
>his
>body and would only consider the views of a minister in a short skirt.
>Bush
>rallied the American patriots with his Patton-esque "bring them on." It
>was
>a great piece of leadership, reminiscent of Churchill. Bush is every bit
>as
>intelligent and astute as some socially isolated, outcast egghead on the
>Palouse.
>
>The difference between President Bush and clinton is that Bush would have
>told Monica to pull her skirt back up and act like a lady. Clinton, the
>juvinile left's beloved icon, humiliated her for LIFE when he inserted his
>cigar in her vagina and after otherwise violating his trust, then DENIED
>his
>responsibility before her and the American People. Clinton was and will
>always be a sick male of BAD CHARACTER, undeserving of respect even from
>those willing to enable his abuse of woman in order to realize their own
>selfish political goals.
>
>"In America, anybody can be a college professor. It's one of the risks
>you
>take." -T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:31 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner Swarmed in Hanoi
>
>
> Greetings:
>
>Just as there will always be those who say that the Johnson did not lie
>and deceive (Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, one specific), there will always
>be those who will always say that the Bush administration did not
>misrepresent and deceive about Iraq, even when the facts are clear that
>it
>did.
>
>Clinton admitted that he had made a mistake and sought forgiveness and
>repentence with his minister. Bush only regrets that he said "bring them
>on," but nothing else. He said that it was not a very sophisticated
>thing
>to say, but when has this simpleton ever said anything of substance?
>
>This is the great moral difference between these two men, and that is why
>Clinton is admired around the world. and in two years Bush will not dare
>appear in a completely public forum in any capital in the world. Crawford
>will be a nice refuge for him, and many will say "good riddance," an
>immature and ill informed man who became president because of his name.
>
>World opinion is a powerful force and it will take decades for us to
>rebuild our reputation and credibility in the world.
>
>Nick Gier
>
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