[Vision2020] True remarks on KUOI broadcast

[Bill London]

D-
this is really getting stupid.
you are searching the Co-op newsletter archives and finding old info about former suppliers.
you are asking me to admit that animals are actually killed for their meat.
whether you stop or not with this, I am done.  this "discussion" is going nowhere.
The bottom line -- the ONLY meat sold at the Moscow Food Co-op is humanely raised.  Period.
BL



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donovan Arnold 
  To: Bill London ; Tim Lohrmann 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Kenna S. Eaton 
  Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] True remarks on KUOI broadcast


  Bill,

  The Co-OP ALSO gets meat (http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/meats.html) from Mission Valley of Montana. (www.montananaturalbeef.com) 

  According to their website, and your newspaper they are lot fed before they are slaughtered. 

  (http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/bcr.html)

  The Alderspring Ranch, that you mentioned, is just ONE source of meat out of MANY that the Co-Op buys product from, but probably the best. 

  You also failed to respond to the question of how the animals are slaughtered. My guess is because you know the answer to that but don't want to say in public. 

  But it is nice to know that you like the family that slaughters and lot feeds the animals. That is a bonus. But I don't think it address or is relevant to the issues or makes the slaughter and lot feeding not true. 

  Bill, why don't you use your influence to change the wrongs rather than avoid the question and attempt to mislead the public and cover it up?


  Best,

  _DJA

  Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:
    D-
    I should remember the old adage, "don't get into a pissing match with a skunk."  But here I go, it's time to remind you about the difference between truth and falsehood.
    You levelled a false accusation at the Moscow Food Co-op.  The Co-op sells only meat raised in line with humane standards. Period.  For you to say otherwise is a lie.
    And now you are repeating that same lie.
    You offer one website article in support of your claim (you cite -- http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/bcr.html).  That article originally appeared in the Co-op's newsletter and focused on the Co-op selling Alderspring Ranch beef.
    Here is the relevant paragraph from that article:
    The first person I contacted was Glenn Elzinga at Alderspring Ranch in Tendoy, Idaho. I immediately liked him and was very impressed with his ranch. Alderspring is a family-owned and operated ranch. The cattle are fed only on pasture. They are never finished on grain; this raises the levels of omega-3 fatty acids and CLA. They are as close to organic as you can get (and are working toward certification). Most importantly, Pam assured me the beef tastes amazing. Glenn is coming to Moscow sometime during the first week of January to bring our first order and sample his product and talk about his ranch. You can find out more on his website www.alderspring.com.
      BL

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Donovan Arnold 
      To: Bill London ; Tim Lohrmann 
      Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Kenna S. Eaton 
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:01 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] True remarks on KUOI broadcast


      Bill,

      If these animals are humanely slaughtered, assuming there is such a thing, then why not give the members of V2020 a detailed description of how the cattle and animals on Alderspring Ranch are killed?

      Tell, me Bill, are the tails of the cows that give milk and used to make cheese chopped off making them more susceptible to disease and illness?

      Are the layer chickens that give you your eggs confined to a small area?

      How are the broiler chickens killed?

      Are the cattle at Mission Valley of Montana forced to eat in lot feeds, the article in your paper says they are? Look yourself,
       
      http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/bcr.html


       Is your paper lying, or are you treating these animals cruelly? Which is it?

      I am fairly certain Mr. London, you will find, if you do some research that while the Co-Op does it less than most, it still buys from producers that abuse and slaughter animals, especially if you use the definitions of PETA, which is what we were discussing on KUOI.  The animals are slaughtered, they don't die of natural causes. Nor are they given pain killers before being killed.  

      So show me where I am wrong Bill, your own paper testifies to what I am saying.If this is wrong, give us a video clip of how pigs meet their death before being served up to the people of the Moscow?

      Also, maybe you can answer this question, why does the Co-OP charge 3 x as much for something as everyone else in Moscow, even when it is the exact same product?

      You wrote:

      "Shoppers who purchase meat at the Moscow Food Co-op can be assured that the utmost care has been taken to ensure that the meat has been carefully and humanely grown."

      Meat is grown? Like potatoes? That is new to me. 

      Tell the Co-Op you don't want fedlot cattle. This is the same method used by factory farms. It is unclean and inhumane to the animals.


      Best,

      _DJA



      Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote: 
        During Tim Lohrmann's KUOI interview show with Megan Prusynski on Sunday, a caller (later identified as Donovan Arnold) said that the Moscow Food Co-op sold meat that had been inhumanely raised.

        That is absolutely false.

        The Moscow Food Co-op is extremely diligent in checking the sources of the meat sold there.  Every source is documented.  Scott Jaklin (meat manager) has files of reports and affidavits for verification, if anyone wants to see them.

        Shoppers who purchase meat at the Moscow Food Co-op can be assured that the utmost care has been taken to ensure that the meat has been carefully and humanely grown.

        BL
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