[Vision2020] West of Paris

Deacon James deaconblues42 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 24 12:03:13 PDT 2006 

Jackie,

If I owned a restaurant, and I were thinking something nefarious like "But I
will be putting it back on as soon as I can when no one is looking," I
probably wouldn't tell it to the newspaper.

D :]

On 8/24/06, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> MOST restaurants that have run out of things, leave it on the menu but add
> a
> note that it is unavailable at this time....yer bud there says "I took it
> off the menu because of the protest" on one side of his mouth while the
> other side is saying "But I will be putting it back on as soon as I can
> when
> no one is looking."
>
> That's called a false statement - attempting to make people believe one
> way
> when the other is the truth....yeah, I know TRUTH - a foreign concept to
> the
> kirkhood.
>
> BTW, do the elders and Dougie know you've become their unofficial
> spokesperson or have they just not gotten around to writing ye an e-mail
> telling ya to knock it off?  Wait - it'll happen; always does, especially
> when ye start embarrassing them like ya are..
>
> J  :]
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
> >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:44:29 -0400
> >
> >J asks "why would you take it off your menu?"
> >
> >Because he doesn't have any.  Thats called false advertising.  If he
> >doesn't have any, he's not going to advertise that he does, giving false
> >impressions to local patrons.  Also, for your reference, he's getting it
> >all the way from France, and if you're not up to date on your geography,
> >thats pretty far away.  You know, in Europe.
> >
> >
> >>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> >>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:30:44 -0700
> >>
> >>First of all, it is is not ***Moscow*** showing an interest in anything,
> >>especially when 'tis kirkers doing the selling and kirkers doing the
> >>buying.
> >>
> >>Second, "we almost sold out our first night."
> >>
> >>is translated as "we sold a bit of it to our friends and numerous family
> >>members and ended up throwing the rest out due to spoilage reasons."
> >>
> >>Third, "The people complaining about foie gras have a point.  The way
> the
> >>birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe it's important
> >>to
> >>treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu again when I
> find
> >>a
> >>producer that doesn't engage in force feeding"
> >>
> >>is translated as "They complain, but so what?  Can they prove what they
> >>say?
> >>   I will do what I want - its my restaurant."
> >>
> >>Fourth, "This is a group that was looking for something to use against
> my
> >>business and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are
> >>some
> >>valid concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I
> >>will
> >>put foie gras on my menu again"
> >>
> >>is translated as "THEY are all against me.  This is religious
> persecution
> >>and I will not cave - well, ok I am for now, but I WILL BE BACK."
> >>
> >>Geez, why bother taking it off the menu if all you're doing is waiting
> for
> >>the next shipment and hoping people outside yer church donnae find out
> you
> >>got it?  How disingenuous can you get?
> >>
> >>
> >>J  :]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
> >> >To: "'Megan Prusynski'" <megan at meganpru.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> >> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:55:57 -0700
> >> >
> >> >Hi Megan & Visionaries:
> >> >
> >> >The following article is from today's Daily News and seems to paint a
> >> >slightly different picture.  In particular, I take exception with Mr.
> >> >Foucachon's statement, "He wants local activists, who got their hands
> on
> >>an
> >> >outdated menu earlier this week, to know their threats of protest mean
> >> >nothing to him or his staff."
> >> >
> >> >The "outdated" menu came directly from West of Paris' Web site the
> very
> >>day
> >> >I posted my concerns, not from some nefarious source.  And, we know
> from
> >> >Mr.
> >> >Foucachon's comments right here on the Viz that he was aware of the
> >> >inhumanity of the product *before* he included it on West of Paris'
> menu
> >> >:-(((
> >> >
> >> >Anyway, here's the article:
> >> >
> >> >"Foie gras controversy hits Moscow
> >> >Activists up in arms over delicacy's inclusion on restaurant menu;
> item
> >>has
> >> >since been removed
> >> >
> >> >By Alexis Bacharach Daily News staff writer
> >> >Published: 08-23-2006
> >> >
> >> >Foie gras is no longer available at Moscow's West of Paris, but not
> for
> >>the
> >> >reasons one might think.
> >> >
> >> >Restaurant owner Francis Foucachon sold out of the item his first week
> >>in
> >> >business.
> >> >
> >> >He wants local activists, who got their hands on an outdated menu
> >>earlier
> >> >this week, to know their threats of protest mean nothing to him or his
> >> >staff.
> >> >
> >> >"Here is the bottom line," he said. "I ordered a small amount just to
> >>see
> >> >if
> >> >there was a demand in Moscow. It was such a huge success, we almost
> sold
> >> >out
> >> >our first night."
> >> >
> >> >Foie gras, French for fatty liver, is produced through a process of
> >> >force-feeding ducks and geese until their livers become saturated with
> >>fat.
> >> >
> >> >Handlers insert tubes down the birds' throats and funnel pounds of
> >>cornmeal
> >> >into their stomachs several times a day.
> >> >
> >> >Megan Prusynski, a local activist with People for the Ethical
> Treatment
> >>of
> >> >Animals and the Humane Society of the United States, said consumption
> of
> >> >foie gras went down in areas that provided focused education and
> >>outreach
> >> >programs.
> >> >
> >> >With that in mind, she's teaming with local and national groups,
> >>including
> >> >Compassion Speaks at Washington State University, to organize protests
> >>in
> >> >Friendship Square later this month.
> >> >
> >> >"There are still a lot of people out there who don't know what foie
> gras
> >>is
> >> >or how it's made," she said. "When I heard there was a restaurant in
> >>Moscow
> >> >serving it, I started talking to people about doing some kind of
> protest
> >>to
> >> >raise people's awareness - maybe get it banned."
> >> >
> >> >More than a dozen countries, including Israel, Germany, the United
> >>Kingdom,
> >> >Austria, the Czech Republic, Finland, Italy, Poland and Denmark, have
> >> >outlawed the French delicacy.
> >> >
> >> >In the United States, lawmakers are proposing bans at the state and
> >> >municipal levels.
> >> >
> >> >The California Legislature passed a phased ban last year on the
> >>production
> >> >and sale of foie gras. Earlier this month, city leaders in Chicago
> >>banned
> >> >the controversial item from all menus in the city.
> >> >
> >> >"The people complaining about foie gras have a point," Foucachon said.
> >>"The
> >> >way the birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe it's
> >> >important to treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu
> >>again
> >> >when I find a producer that doesn't engage in force feeding."
> >> >
> >> >PETA spokesman Matt Prescott said that's a victory for animal rights,
> >> >because Foucachon will never find what he's looking for.
> >> >
> >> >"There are producers in the industry who say their foie gras is
> produced
> >> >humanely, but such claims are unsubstantiated," he said.
> "Investigations
> >>at
> >> >every foie gras farm has uncovered incidents of sick, dead and abused
> >> >animals. We've seen birds with holes in their throats and bloody
> beaks.
> >> >We've seen farms where dead birds were dangling from wires, dripping
> >>blood
> >> >on the live birds."
> >> >
> >> >Video footage and photo galleries on PETA's Web site provide images of
> >> >birds
> >> >with gaping wounds, images of blood-soaked cages and buckets full of
> >> >feathered corpses.
> >> >
> >> >"No animal should be subject to torture," Foucachon said. "But these
> >>things
> >> >they're complaining about, I would suggest American chickens are
> treated
> >> >far
> >> >worse than the ducks and the geese. Why aren't people writing letters
> >>and
> >> >staging protests at the grocery stores and restaurants that sell
> >>chicken?"
> >> >
> >> >Why stop there, he asked?
> >> >
> >> >Foucachon suggested protests against restaurants that cook live
> >>lobsters.
> >> >
> >> >"This is a group that was looking for something to use against my
> >>business
> >> >and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are some
> >>valid
> >> >concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I will
> >>put
> >> >foie gras on my menu again."
> >> >
> >> >Alexis Bacharach can be reached at (208) 882-5561, ext. 238, or by
> >>e-mail
> >> >at
> >> >abacharach at dnews.com "
> >> >________
> >> >
> >> >A Very Disappointed Saundra Lund
> >> >Moscow, ID
> >> >
> >> >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
> >>do
> >> >nothing.
> >> >- Edmund Burke
> >> >
> >> >***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
> >>Lund.
> >> >Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
> >>forum
> >> >without the express written permission of the author.*****
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> >> >On Behalf Of Megan Prusynski
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:55 AM
> >> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> >> >
> >> >I also wanted to give you all an update on West of Paris and the foie
> >>gras
> >> >issue. Mr. Foucachon has decided to take foie gras off the menu and I
> >>would
> >> >like to congratulate and thank him for making the compassionate
> choice.
> >> >Hopefully his kind actions can be a way to educate people about just
> >>what
> >> >goes into foie gras production and how cruel it is. Thanks very much,
> >>Mr.
> >> >Foucachon and West of Paris. :)
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