Jackie,<br><br>If I owned a restaurant, and I were thinking something nefarious like "But I will be putting it back on as soon as I can when no one is looking," I probably wouldn't tell it to the newspaper.<br><br>
D :]<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/24/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">J Ford</b> <<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
MOST restaurants that have run out of things, leave it on the menu but add a<br>note that it is unavailable at this time....yer bud there says "I took it<br>off the menu because of the protest" on one side of his mouth while the
<br>other side is saying "But I will be putting it back on as soon as I can when<br>no one is looking."<br><br>That's called a false statement - attempting to make people believe one way<br>when the other is the truth....yeah, I know TRUTH - a foreign concept to the
<br>kirkhood.<br><br>BTW, do the elders and Dougie know you've become their unofficial<br>spokesperson or have they just not gotten around to writing ye an e-mail<br>telling ya to knock it off? Wait - it'll happen; always does, especially
<br>when ye start embarrassing them like ya are..<br><br>J :]<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: "David Williams" <<a href="mailto:davidwilliams365@hotmail.com">davidwilliams365@hotmail.com</a>><br>>To:
<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris<br>>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:44:29 -0400
<br>><br>>J asks "why would you take it off your menu?"<br>><br>>Because he doesn't have any. Thats called false advertising. If he<br>>doesn't have any, he's not going to advertise that he does, giving false
<br>>impressions to local patrons. Also, for your reference, he's getting it<br>>all the way from France, and if you're not up to date on your geography,<br>>thats pretty far away. You know, in Europe.<br>><br>
><br>>>From: "J Ford" <<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a>><br>>>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
<br>>>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:30:44 -0700<br>>><br>>>First of all, it is is not ***Moscow*** showing an interest in anything,<br>>>especially when 'tis kirkers doing the selling and kirkers doing the
<br>>>buying.<br>>><br>>>Second, "we almost sold out our first night."<br>>><br>>>is translated as "we sold a bit of it to our friends and numerous family<br>>>members and ended up throwing the rest out due to spoilage reasons."
<br>>><br>>>Third, "The people complaining about foie gras have a point. The way the<br>>>birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe it's important<br>>>to<br>>>treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu again when I find
<br>>>a<br>>>producer that doesn't engage in force feeding"<br>>><br>>>is translated as "They complain, but so what? Can they prove what they<br>>>say?<br>>> I will do what I want - its my restaurant."
<br>>><br>>>Fourth, "This is a group that was looking for something to use against my<br>>>business and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are<br>>>some<br>>>valid concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I
<br>>>will<br>>>put foie gras on my menu again"<br>>><br>>>is translated as "THEY are all against me. This is religious persecution<br>>>and I will not cave - well, ok I am for now, but I WILL BE BACK."
<br>>><br>>>Geez, why bother taking it off the menu if all you're doing is waiting for<br>>>the next shipment and hoping people outside yer church donnae find out you<br>>>got it? How disingenuous can you get?
<br>>><br>>><br>>>J :]<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> >From: "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">sslund@adelphia.net</a>><br>
>> >To: "'Megan Prusynski'" <<a href="mailto:megan@meganpru.com">megan@meganpru.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
<br>>> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:55:57 -0700<br>>> ><br>>> >Hi Megan & Visionaries:<br>>> ><br>>> >The following article is from today's Daily News and seems to paint a<br>
>> >slightly different picture. In particular, I take exception with Mr.<br>>> >Foucachon's statement, "He wants local activists, who got their hands on<br>>>an<br>>> >outdated menu earlier this week, to know their threats of protest mean
<br>>> >nothing to him or his staff."<br>>> ><br>>> >The "outdated" menu came directly from West of Paris' Web site the very<br>>>day<br>>> >I posted my concerns, not from some nefarious source. And, we know from
<br>>> >Mr.<br>>> >Foucachon's comments right here on the Viz that he was aware of the<br>>> >inhumanity of the product *before* he included it on West of Paris' menu<br>>> >:-(((<br>>> >
<br>>> >Anyway, here's the article:<br>>> ><br>>> >"Foie gras controversy hits Moscow<br>>> >Activists up in arms over delicacy's inclusion on restaurant menu; item<br>>>has<br>
>> >since been removed<br>>> ><br>>> >By Alexis Bacharach Daily News staff writer<br>>> >Published: 08-23-2006<br>>> ><br>>> >Foie gras is no longer available at Moscow's West of Paris, but not for
<br>>>the<br>>> >reasons one might think.<br>>> ><br>>> >Restaurant owner Francis Foucachon sold out of the item his first week<br>>>in<br>>> >business.<br>>> ><br>
>> >He wants local activists, who got their hands on an outdated menu<br>>>earlier<br>>> >this week, to know their threats of protest mean nothing to him or his<br>>> >staff.<br>>> >
<br>>> >"Here is the bottom line," he said. "I ordered a small amount just to<br>>>see<br>>> >if<br>>> >there was a demand in Moscow. It was such a huge success, we almost sold
<br>>> >out<br>>> >our first night."<br>>> ><br>>> >Foie gras, French for fatty liver, is produced through a process of<br>>> >force-feeding ducks and geese until their livers become saturated with
<br>>>fat.<br>>> ><br>>> >Handlers insert tubes down the birds' throats and funnel pounds of<br>>>cornmeal<br>>> >into their stomachs several times a day.<br>>> ><br>>> >Megan Prusynski, a local activist with People for the Ethical Treatment
<br>>>of<br>>> >Animals and the Humane Society of the United States, said consumption of<br>>> >foie gras went down in areas that provided focused education and<br>>>outreach<br>>> >programs.
<br>>> ><br>>> >With that in mind, she's teaming with local and national groups,<br>>>including<br>>> >Compassion Speaks at Washington State University, to organize protests<br>>>in<br>
>> >Friendship Square later this month.<br>>> ><br>>> >"There are still a lot of people out there who don't know what foie gras<br>>>is<br>>> >or how it's made," she said. "When I heard there was a restaurant in
<br>>>Moscow<br>>> >serving it, I started talking to people about doing some kind of protest<br>>>to<br>>> >raise people's awareness - maybe get it banned."<br>>> ><br>>> >More than a dozen countries, including Israel, Germany, the United
<br>>>Kingdom,<br>>> >Austria, the Czech Republic, Finland, Italy, Poland and Denmark, have<br>>> >outlawed the French delicacy.<br>>> ><br>>> >In the United States, lawmakers are proposing bans at the state and
<br>>> >municipal levels.<br>>> ><br>>> >The California Legislature passed a phased ban last year on the<br>>>production<br>>> >and sale of foie gras. Earlier this month, city leaders in Chicago
<br>>>banned<br>>> >the controversial item from all menus in the city.<br>>> ><br>>> >"The people complaining about foie gras have a point," Foucachon said.<br>>>"The<br>
>> >way the birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe it's<br>>> >important to treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu<br>>>again<br>>> >when I find a producer that doesn't engage in force feeding."
<br>>> ><br>>> >PETA spokesman Matt Prescott said that's a victory for animal rights,<br>>> >because Foucachon will never find what he's looking for.<br>>> ><br>>> >"There are producers in the industry who say their foie gras is produced
<br>>> >humanely, but such claims are unsubstantiated," he said. "Investigations<br>>>at<br>>> >every foie gras farm has uncovered incidents of sick, dead and abused<br>>> >animals. We've seen birds with holes in their throats and bloody beaks.
<br>>> >We've seen farms where dead birds were dangling from wires, dripping<br>>>blood<br>>> >on the live birds."<br>>> ><br>>> >Video footage and photo galleries on PETA's Web site provide images of
<br>>> >birds<br>>> >with gaping wounds, images of blood-soaked cages and buckets full of<br>>> >feathered corpses.<br>>> ><br>>> >"No animal should be subject to torture," Foucachon said. "But these
<br>>>things<br>>> >they're complaining about, I would suggest American chickens are treated<br>>> >far<br>>> >worse than the ducks and the geese. Why aren't people writing letters<br>>>and
<br>>> >staging protests at the grocery stores and restaurants that sell<br>>>chicken?"<br>>> ><br>>> >Why stop there, he asked?<br>>> ><br>>> >Foucachon suggested protests against restaurants that cook live
<br>>>lobsters.<br>>> ><br>>> >"This is a group that was looking for something to use against my<br>>>business<br>>> >and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are some
<br>>>valid<br>>> >concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I will<br>>>put<br>>> >foie gras on my menu again."<br>>> ><br>>> >Alexis Bacharach can be reached at (208) 882-5561, ext. 238, or by
<br>>>e-mail<br>>> >at<br>>> ><a href="mailto:abacharach@dnews.com">abacharach@dnews.com</a> "<br>>> >________<br>>> ><br>>> >A Very Disappointed Saundra Lund<br>>> >Moscow, ID
<br>>> ><br>>> >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to<br>>>do<br>>> >nothing.<br>>> >- Edmund Burke<br>>> ><br>>> >***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
<br>>>Lund.<br>>> >Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020<br>>>forum<br>>> >without the express written permission of the author.*****<br>>> ><br>>> >-----Original Message-----
<br>>> >From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a><br>>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>>> >On Behalf Of Megan Prusynski
<br>>> >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:55 AM<br>>> >To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris<br>>> ><br>>> >I also wanted to give you all an update on West of Paris and the foie
<br>>>gras<br>>> >issue. Mr. Foucachon has decided to take foie gras off the menu and I<br>>>would<br>>> >like to congratulate and thank him for making the compassionate choice.<br>>> >Hopefully his kind actions can be a way to educate people about just
<br>>>what<br>>> >goes into foie gras production and how cruel it is. Thanks very much,<br>>>Mr.<br>>> >Foucachon and West of Paris. :)<br>>> ><br>>> >=======================================================
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