[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!

[Donovan Arnold]

Bill,
  
 The chief complains I heard from students was not that  a $25 piece of property was taken for a student organization and put to  an open flame, but the meaning and intent of those behind that  committed, or attempted to commit, the action. Although property theft  was an issue just as burning without a permit is an issue with a cross  burning it is a distant secondary issue. 
  
  Best,
  
  _DJA

Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:  The crucial difference is that the rainbow flag was first stolen, then
trashed.  The issue was not free speech, but robbery.
BL


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Decker" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!


> Donovan,
>
> Wasn't that flag thrown in the trash can and not burned? I remember the
flag
> still in tact when I saw it.
>
> Matt
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold 
> >To: Tom Hansen , "'Joe Campbell'"
,
> >        "'Tony Simpson'" 
> >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
> >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Tom,
> >
> >  If someone burns a flag of a country, nation or group of  people,  I
> >consider it an act of aggression and/or  ill will  towards those people.
I
> >responded that way when several of my  senatorial colleagues in ASUI
burned
> >the Gay Straight Alliance Flag--as  did many others.
> >
> >  If someone protests against a war or  action of the US within the US
they
> >can do so without burning a flag,  spitting on US Soldiers, or destroying
> >public or private property.
> >
> >   So yes, I think someone that burns a US Flag should be watched more
> >carefully, and I think they are people that are disrespecting the  United
> >States and all the people in it. I consider an attack on a US  Naval ROTC
> >Building an attack on the US--especially one that my Dad was  attending
> >during the 60s.
> >
> >   Best,
> >
> >   _DJA
> >
> >Tom Hansen  wrote:              v\:*
> >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
> >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> >     st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Arnold
> >stated:
> >
> >     "It is easier to find those that  hate and wish real harm to the
> >United    States if you allow them to burn a flag."
> >
> >     Are you suggesting that all those students  and anti-war protestors
> >during Vietnam  hated and wished real harm to the United States,  Arnold?
> >
> >     Campuses (just to name a few) at:
> >
> >     University of Virginia
> >
> >     University of California at Berkeley
> >
> >     Kent State University
> >
> >     UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO
> >     (Be careful here, Arnold.  My wife attended UI during the late 60's.
> >Yes.  There were  major demonstrations which included (on one occasion
> >burning a US  flag and an attempt to burn down the Navy ROTC building)
> >
> >     Thoughts?
> >
> >     Tom Hansen
> >
> >             ********************************************
> >
> >   "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
> >
> >   - Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >   ********************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >     From:  vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> >   Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:26  PM
> >   To: Joe Campbell; Tony Simpson
> >   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]  Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's
ass!
> >
> >
> >     "I think that the question of whether flag burning is or is not
> >speech
> >   is not so  clear." Joe Campbell
> >
> >   Isn't it  that every American Flag eventually gets burned?
> >
> >   A flag is  speech, that is all it is, how you burn it and for what
> >reasons I think
> >   speaks  volumes.
> >
> >   It is easier  to find those that hate and wish real harm to the
> >   United States if you allow them to  burn a flag.
> >
> >   Best,
> >
> >   _DJA
> >
> >
> >
> >
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