Bill,<br> <br> The chief complains I heard from students was not that a $25 piece of property was taken for a student organization and put to an open flame, but the meaning and intent of those behind that committed, or attempted to commit, the action. Although property theft was an issue just as burning without a permit is an issue with a cross burning it is a distant secondary issue. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Bill London <london@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> The crucial difference is that the rainbow flag was first stolen, then<br>trashed. The issue was not free speech, but robbery.<br>BL<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 @hotmail.com=""><br>To: <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com="">; <thansen @moscow.com="">;<br><joekc @adelphia.net="">; <tonytime @clearwire.net=""><br>Cc: <vision2020
@moscow.com=""><br>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:53 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!<br><br><br>> Donovan,<br>><br>> Wasn't that flag thrown in the trash can and not burned? I remember the<br>flag<br>> still in tact when I saw it.<br>><br>> Matt<br>><br>><br>> >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>> >To: Tom Hansen <thansen @moscow.com="">, "'Joe Campbell'"<br><joekc @adelphia.net="">,<br>> > "'Tony Simpson'" <tonytime @clearwire.net=""><br>> >CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!<br>> >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT)<br>> ><br>> >Tom,<br>> ><br>> > If someone burns a flag of a country, nation or group of people, I<br>> >consider it an act of aggression and/or ill will towards those people.<br>I<br>> >responded that way
when several of my senatorial colleagues in ASUI<br>burned<br>> >the Gay Straight Alliance Flag--as did many others.<br>> ><br>> > If someone protests against a war or action of the US within the US<br>they<br>> >can do so without burning a flag, spitting on US Soldiers, or destroying<br>> >public or private property.<br>> ><br>> > So yes, I think someone that burns a US Flag should be watched more<br>> >carefully, and I think they are people that are disrespecting the United<br>> >States and all the people in it. I consider an attack on a US Naval ROTC<br>> >Building an attack on the US--especially one that my Dad was attending<br>> >during the 60s.<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> ><br>> > _DJA<br>> ><br>> >Tom Hansen <thansen @moscow.com=""> wrote: v\:*<br>> >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*<br>>
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}<br>> > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Arnold<br>> >stated:<br>> ><br>> > "It is easier to find those that hate and wish real harm to the<br>> >United States if you allow them to burn a flag."<br>> ><br>> > Are you suggesting that all those students and anti-war protestors<br>> >during Vietnam hated and wished real harm to the United States, Arnold?<br>> ><br>> > Campuses (just to name a few) at:<br>> ><br>> > University of Virginia<br>> ><br>> > University of California at Berkeley<br>> ><br>> > Kent State University<br>> ><br>> > UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO<br>> > (Be careful here, Arnold. My wife attended UI during the late 60's.<br>> >Yes. There were major demonstrations which included (on one occasion<br>>
>burning a US flag and an attempt to burn down the Navy ROTC building)<br>> ><br>> > Thoughts?<br>> ><br>> > Tom Hansen<br>> ><br>> > ********************************************<br>> ><br>> > "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"<br>> ><br>> > - Thomas Jefferson<br>> ><br>> > ********************************************<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >---------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<br>> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold<br>> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:26 PM<br>> > To: Joe Campbell; Tony Simpson<br>> > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's<br>ass!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > "I think that the question of whether flag burning
is or is not<br>> >speech<br>> > is not so clear." Joe Campbell<br>> ><br>> > Isn't it that every American Flag eventually gets burned?<br>> ><br>> > A flag is speech, that is all it is, how you burn it and for what<br>> >reasons I think<br>> > speaks volumes.<br>> ><br>> > It is easier to find those that hate and wish real harm to the<br>> > United States if you allow them to burn a flag.<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> ><br>> > _DJA<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >---------------------------------<br>> > All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done<br>> >faster.<br>><br>><br>> >=======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >
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