[Vision2020] Mountain View and D

[Art Deco]

How do we know that a four-way stop at Mountain View and D will clog traffic for blocks?  Do you have access to traffic studies and the engineered conclusions drawn from them the rest of us are ignorant of?

There are several busy intersections with four-way stops that function fine without clogging traffic for blocks:  Blaine and 6th, Blaine and White, Hayes and D, Line and 6th (although this can back up traffic for about one block on the east side at peak times, but no big deal), A and Line, are a few examples.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Donovan Arnold 
To: roger hayes ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mountain View and D


I am not for a stop sign on Mountain and D. I am however, for a stop light. A four way stop will have Mountain View and D street clogged for blocks. That will force more people into taking alternative routes speeding through neighborhood streets and down 6th Street (when and if that road ever reopens). 

It sounds logical to put a four way stop there. But I think the volume of traffic is great and this will create greater problems on that corner and elsewhere in town. How much longer does it take for four cars to come to a stop, then go one at a time? Multiply that by the number of cars, if will a good 10-15 minutes longer to across town on that section of road. 

Best,

_DJA

roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com> wrote:
  > A timed light is an improvement, but kids and walkers cross that 
  > intersection from dawn to way past dark. The problem does not just 
  > occur during the morning and afternoon. A stop sign would be a cheap, 
  > effective way to slow the traffic enough so drivers would be more 
  > aware of children and pedestrians in the crosswalk. We'd probably want 
  > to leave the blinking yellow light though.

  Roger Hayes

  >
  >> I think the city has viewed Mt. View as an arterial for the increasing
  >> numbers of houses on the outskirts of Moscow.
  >> As a person who frequently crosses this intersection on foot and by
  >> bicycle, I think a 4 way stop sign at D and Mt. View is a good idea
  >> indeed. People tend to really zip through that area. It will, however,
  >> change the nature of Mt. View from commuting arterial to urban street.
  >> But given all the schools, the pool, and rec. centers in the area, the
  >> change will not be a bad thing.
  >
  > Roger Hayes
  >
  >> From: cynthia nichols 
  >> To: Bruce and Jean Livingston 
  >> CC: john weber , Nancy Chaney 
  >> ,
  >> bill lambert , Vision 2020
  >> , Robert Stout ,
  >> john dickinson 
  >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
  >> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:27:40 -0700
  >>
  >> This is a good idea. No sense in making EVERYONE on Mountain View
  >> stop all day long when there is only a problem twice a day. Or even
  >> having the lights on Mtn. View blink yellow most of the day and blink
  >> red during those peak-use times.
  >>
  >> The city needs to require the developer to finish the sidewalk on the
  >> east side of Mountain View too-between Hillcrest and Rolling Hills.
  >>
  >> cynthia nichols
  >>
  >>
  >> On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Bruce and Jean Livingston wrote:
  >>
  >>> Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put a traffic light
  >>> there, set it
  >>> for blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview direction,
  >>> but run
  >>> it with actual red and green alternating lights for the high
  >>> traffic, "kid"
  >>> times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given
  >>> the "kid
  >>> use" of the athletic facilities all around that intersection. The
  >>> traffic
  >>> back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing
  >>> opportunity
  >>> that an actual red light on Mountainview would provide is 
  >>> significant.
  >>>
  >>> Parents would also be much more likely to allow children to walk to
  >>> school
  >>> if they had confidence in the safety of their child when crossing
  >>> Mountainview at D Street.
  >>>
  >>> Bruce Livingston
  >>>
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: "Craine Kit" 
  >>> To: "Vision 2020" 
  >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM
  >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>> Here are the photos showing the flashing lights.
  >>>>
  >>>> Kit Craine

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