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<DIV><FONT size=4>How do we know that a four-way stop at Mountain View and D
will clog traffic for blocks? Do you have access to traffic studies and
the engineered conclusions drawn from them the rest of us are ignorant
of?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>There are several busy intersections with four-way stops
that function fine without clogging traffic for blocks: Blaine and 6th,
Blaine and White, Hayes and D, Line and 6th (although this can back up traffic
for about one block on the east side at peak times, but no big deal), A and
Line, are a few examples.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=rhayes@turbonet.com
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com">roger hayes</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:22 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Mountain View and D</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I am not for a stop sign on Mountain and D. I am however, for a
stop light. A four way stop will have Mountain View and D street clogged for
blocks. That will force more people into taking alternative routes speeding
through neighborhood streets and down 6th Street (when and if that road ever
reopens). <BR><BR>It sounds logical to put a four way stop there. But I think
the volume of traffic is great and this will create greater problems on that
corner and elsewhere in town. How much longer does it take for four cars to come
to a stop, then go one at a time? Multiply that by the number of cars, if will a
good 10-15 minutes longer to across town on that section of road.
<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I>roger hayes
<rhayes@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:
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A timed light is an improvement, but kids and walkers cross that <BR>>
intersection from dawn to way past dark. The problem does not just <BR>>
occur during the morning and afternoon. A stop sign would be a cheap, <BR>>
effective way to slow the traffic enough so drivers would be more <BR>>
aware of children and pedestrians in the crosswalk. We'd probably want
<BR>> to leave the blinking yellow light though.<BR><BR>Roger
Hayes<BR><BR>><BR>>> I think the city has viewed Mt. View as an
arterial for the increasing<BR>>> numbers of houses on the outskirts of
Moscow.<BR>>> As a person who frequently crosses this intersection on
foot and by<BR>>> bicycle, I think a 4 way stop sign at D and Mt. View
is a good idea<BR>>> indeed. People tend to really zip through that
area. It will, however,<BR>>> change the nature of Mt. View from
commuting arterial to urban street.<BR>>> But given all the schools, the
pool, and rec. centers in the area, the<BR>>> change will not be a bad
thing.<BR>><BR>> Roger Hayes<BR>><BR>>> From: cynthia nichols
<CYNTHIANN0 @mac.com=""><BR>>> To: Bruce and Jean Livingston
<JEANLIVINGSTON @turbonet.com=""><BR>>> CC: john weber <JWEBER
@ci.moscow.id.us="">, Nancy Chaney <BR>>> <NCHANEY
@moscow.com="">,<BR>>> bill lambert <BLAMBERT @ci.moscow.id.us="">,
Vision 2020<BR>>> <VISION2020 @moscow.com="">, Robert Stout <BSTOUT
@ci.moscow.id.us="">,<BR>>> john dickinson <JOHNDICKINSON
@moscow.com=""><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works
Meeting<BR>>> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:27:40
-0700<BR>>><BR>>> This is a good idea. No sense in making EVERYONE
on Mountain View<BR>>> stop all day long when there is only a problem
twice a day. Or even<BR>>> having the lights on Mtn. View blink yellow
most of the day and blink<BR>>> red during those peak-use
times.<BR>>><BR>>> The city needs to require the developer to
finish the sidewalk on the<BR>>> east side of Mountain View too-between
Hillcrest and Rolling Hills.<BR>>><BR>>> cynthia
nichols<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:21 AM,
Bruce and Jean Livingston wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> Frankly, I don't
understand why they don't put a traffic light<BR>>>> there, set
it<BR>>>> for blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview
direction,<BR>>>> but run<BR>>>> it with actual red and
green alternating lights for the high<BR>>>> traffic,
"kid"<BR>>>> times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even
6 pm given<BR>>>> the "kid<BR>>>> use" of the athletic
facilities all around that intersection. The<BR>>>>
traffic<BR>>>> back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented
crossing<BR>>>> opportunity<BR>>>> that an actual red light
on Mountainview would provide is <BR>>>>
significant.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Parents would also be much more
likely to allow children to walk to<BR>>>> school<BR>>>> if
they had confidence in the safety of their child when crossing<BR>>>>
Mountainview at D Street.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Bruce
Livingston<BR>>>><BR>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>> From: "Craine Kit" <KCRAINE
@verizon.net=""><BR>>>> To: "Vision 2020" <VISION2020
@moscow.com=""><BR>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21
AM<BR>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works
Meeting<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> Here are the
photos showing the flashing lights.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Kit
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