[Vision2020] Mountain View and D

Janesta Carcich janestacarcich at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 21 10:54:57 PDT 2006


There needs to be something there to stop traffic, it
is a no~brainer. It is just a matter of what. Why not
put up portable stop signs, and do a study? 

Janesta

--- Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:

> How do we know that a four-way stop at Mountain View
> and D will clog traffic for blocks?  Do you have
> access to traffic studies and the engineered
> conclusions drawn from them the rest of us are
> ignorant of?
> 
> There are several busy intersections with four-way
> stops that function fine without clogging traffic
> for blocks:  Blaine and 6th, Blaine and White, Hayes
> and D, Line and 6th (although this can back up
> traffic for about one block on the east side at peak
> times, but no big deal), A and Line, are a few
> examples.
> 
> W.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Donovan Arnold 
> To: roger hayes ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mountain View and D
> 
> 
> I am not for a stop sign on Mountain and D. I am
> however, for a stop light. A four way stop will have
> Mountain View and D street clogged for blocks. That
> will force more people into taking alternative
> routes speeding through neighborhood streets and
> down 6th Street (when and if that road ever
> reopens). 
> 
> It sounds logical to put a four way stop there. But
> I think the volume of traffic is great and this will
> create greater problems on that corner and elsewhere
> in town. How much longer does it take for four cars
> to come to a stop, then go one at a time? Multiply
> that by the number of cars, if will a good 10-15
> minutes longer to across town on that section of
> road. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> _DJA
> 
> roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com> wrote:
>   > A timed light is an improvement, but kids and
> walkers cross that 
>   > intersection from dawn to way past dark. The
> problem does not just 
>   > occur during the morning and afternoon. A stop
> sign would be a cheap, 
>   > effective way to slow the traffic enough so
> drivers would be more 
>   > aware of children and pedestrians in the
> crosswalk. We'd probably want 
>   > to leave the blinking yellow light though.
> 
>   Roger Hayes
> 
>   >
>   >> I think the city has viewed Mt. View as an
> arterial for the increasing
>   >> numbers of houses on the outskirts of Moscow.
>   >> As a person who frequently crosses this
> intersection on foot and by
>   >> bicycle, I think a 4 way stop sign at D and Mt.
> View is a good idea
>   >> indeed. People tend to really zip through that
> area. It will, however,
>   >> change the nature of Mt. View from commuting
> arterial to urban street.
>   >> But given all the schools, the pool, and rec.
> centers in the area, the
>   >> change will not be a bad thing.
>   >
>   > Roger Hayes
>   >
>   >> From: cynthia nichols 
>   >> To: Bruce and Jean Livingston 
>   >> CC: john weber , Nancy Chaney 
>   >> ,
>   >> bill lambert , Vision 2020
>   >> , Robert Stout ,
>   >> john dickinson 
>   >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>   >> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:27:40 -0700
>   >>
>   >> This is a good idea. No sense in making
> EVERYONE on Mountain View
>   >> stop all day long when there is only a problem
> twice a day. Or even
>   >> having the lights on Mtn. View blink yellow
> most of the day and blink
>   >> red during those peak-use times.
>   >>
>   >> The city needs to require the developer to
> finish the sidewalk on the
>   >> east side of Mountain View too-between
> Hillcrest and Rolling Hills.
>   >>
>   >> cynthia nichols
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Bruce and Jean
> Livingston wrote:
>   >>
>   >>> Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put
> a traffic light
>   >>> there, set it
>   >>> for blinking yellow much of the day in the
> Mountainview direction,
>   >>> but run
>   >>> it with actual red and green alternating
> lights for the high
>   >>> traffic, "kid"
>   >>> times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until
> 4 or even 6 pm given
>   >>> the "kid
>   >>> use" of the athletic facilities all around
> that intersection. The
>   >>> traffic
>   >>> back-up on D St. can be significant, and a
> regimented crossing
>   >>> opportunity
>   >>> that an actual red light on Mountainview would
> provide is 
>   >>> significant.
>   >>>
>   >>> Parents would also be much more likely to
> allow children to walk to
>   >>> school
>   >>> if they had confidence in the safety of their
> child when crossing
>   >>> Mountainview at D Street.
>   >>>
>   >>> Bruce Livingston
>   >>>
>   >>> ----- Original Message -----
>   >>> From: "Craine Kit" 
>   >>> To: "Vision 2020" 
>   >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM
>   >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>> Here are the photos showing the flashing
> lights.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> Kit Craine
> 
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