[Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006

[Matt Decker]

Rv,

Your new to here so I'll just fill you in. The practice here is to post 3 
times a day max. Not everyone does it but thats the rule atleast.

Thank you
Matt


>From: "rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>
>To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:57:32 -0700
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>4    and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper robe which is upon him, 
>and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto 
>his bow, and unto his girdle.
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>Sorry to inform you, Art, but this is simply symbolic of the fact Jonathan 
>is conceeding his royal robe, sword, bow and gear to David in recognition 
>his father is naming David as king.
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>It has nothing to do with homosexuality and you would have to have a sick 
>mind to believe so.
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>Dick
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Art Deco
>   To: Vision 2020
>   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
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>   Dearest Dick,
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>   Here is the actual text from Young's Literal Translation of the Bible.  
>Sounds a little suggestive to me.
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>   1 Samuel 18
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>   1    And it cometh to pass, when he finisheth to speak unto Saul, that 
>the soul of Jonathan hath been bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan 
>loveth him as his own soul.
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>   2    And Saul taketh him on that day, and hath not permitted him to turn 
>back to the house of his father.
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>   3    And Jonathan maketh-also David-a covenant, because he loveth him as 
>his own soul,
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>   4    and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper robe which is upon him, 
>and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto 
>his bow, and unto his girdle.
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>   Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>   deco at moscow.com
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: rvrcowboy
>   To: Vision2020
>   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:17 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
>
>
>   Ed is forgetting, of course, that "the soul of Jonathan was bound to the 
>soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Then Jonathan made a 
>covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul." 1 Samuel 18. So 
>much for Bathsheba. Uriah the Hittite bit the dust for nothing.
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>   Joan Opyr  4/22/2006
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>   What is Joan trying to make us believe here?  That David and Jonathan 
>engaged in homosexual activities with each other?  That is crazy, but then 
>again, who should be surprised at that from Joan?
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>   This chapter and verse is taken completely out of context and has 
>nothing to do with homosexual activity what-so-ever but with the bond 
>between David and Jonathan (Saul's son) as friends.  Joan has obviously 
>never had a friend she trusted or loved with her soul.  Or, perhaps, not 
>one that she has not had sex with anyway.
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>   To offer up this text as evidence that homosexuality is accepted in the 
>Bible is ludicrous and bordering on blasphemy.  Talk about a stretch of the 
>imagination.... WOW!
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>   Dick
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