[Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006

[Joan Opyr]

On Apr 26, 2006, at 4:57 PM, rvrcowboy wrote:

> 4    and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper robe which is upon 
> him, and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, 
> and unto his bow, and unto his girdle.
>  
> Sorry to inform you, Art, but this is simply symbolic of the fact 
> Jonathan is conceeding his royal robe, sword, bow and gear to David in 
> recognition his father is naming David as king. 
>  
> It has nothing to do with homosexuality and you would have to have a 
> sick mind to believe so.
>  
> Dick
>

Ah, we have a Biblical expert on our hands!  Wonderful.  Care to 
explain the rest of your Bible to us, Dick?  I say "your Bible" because 
you still haven't told us what translation you're using, or how it is 
that you think you know the exact nature of David's relationship with 
Jonathan.  Just for the record, I would not and do not claim that David 
and Jonathan had sex.  I don't know what they did.  What I do know is 
that Jonathan loved David, and he bound himself to David, soul to soul. 
  Compare this passage to the passages describing David's mere lust for 
Bathsheba, and you find something entirely different -- a relationship 
more meaningful, more full, and more beautiful.  That, to me, is 
interesting.

About marriage, whether gay or straight: who knows which married couple 
have sex and which don't?  Who knows what kind of sex they have?  
Missionary, wild and crazy, happy, miserable, forced, enthusiastic, or 
boring, rote and routine?  Marriage law doesn't ask, and married 
couples are not obliged to tell.  If a husband should suffer from ED, 
are he and his wife no longer married?  Particularly if his health 
won't allow him to take Viagra?  Who wants to make that argument?  
Marriage is about so much more than sex.  It's about love, commitment, 
and responsibility.  It's about taking on one another's burdens, in 
sickness and in health.  My "sick mind" extends that relationship to 
couples of the opposite sex as well as couples of the same sex.  No 
need to get into the gory details of the bedroom, Dick -- not unless 
you insist, in which case you need to get off this list onto something 
triple-X.

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com

PS: By ED, I am referring of course to Erectile Dysfunction, not to Ed 
Cooper.  Unless of course . . . no, I won't go there.  That would be 
too much like Dick.

PPS: Anyone heard Willie Nelson's new song, "Cowboys Are Frequently, 
Secretly Fond of Each Other?"  It's quite lovely.  When I send Greg my 
Liberal Island recordings, I think I'll attach a copy at the end of 
each CD.


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