[Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006

[J Ford]

Hey...let's not go there, ok? Not cool.

The discussion should stay on the fact that these guys seem overly obsessed 
with the sexual habits of people they don't know and don't have much regard 
for.  Sorta like Hitler having no regard for the Jewish or the White 
Southerners for the Blacks (in the Slavery Days AS IT TRULY WAS.)

J  :]




>From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>To: Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The humorous thing, rvcowboy, is that you are the one who made the 
>homosexual connection to the passage in the first place.  Joan didn't.  You 
>went that direction all by yourself.  And now you're saying that only a 
>sick mind would do such a thing.
>
>Why are you, and the Dougs, and Dale, and Ed so obsessed with homosexualty? 
>  Even creepier (at least to me), why are you guys so obsessed with male 
>gay sex?  I could kinda understand if you were excited about the idea of 
>two women getting it on.
>
>-Scott
>
>rvrcowboy <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote:        4     and Jonathan 
>strippeth himself of the upper  robe which is upon him, and  giveth it to 
>David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto his bow,  and unto 
>his girdle.
>
>  Sorry to inform you,  Art, but this is simply symbolic of the fact 
>Jonathan is conceeding his royal  robe, sword, bow and gear to David in 
>recognition his father is naming David as  king.
>
>  It has nothing to do  with homosexuality and you would have to have a 
>sick mind to believe  so.
>
>  Dick
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>    From:    Art Deco
>    To: Vision 2020
>    Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:03    PM
>    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on    4/22/2006
>
>
>    Dearest Dick,
>
>    Here is the actual text from Young's Literal Translation    of the 
>Bible.  Sounds a little suggestive to me.
>
>
>    1 Samuel    18
>
>    1       And it cometh to    pass, when he finisheth to speak unto Saul, 
>that the soul of Jonathan hath    been bound to the soul of David, and 
>Jonathan loveth him as his own    soul.
>
>    2       And    Saul taketh him on that day, and hath not permitted him 
>to turn back to the    house of his father.
>
>    3       And Jonathan maketh�also David�a covenant, because he 
>loveth him as his own    soul,
>
>    4       and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper    robe which is 
>upon him, and    giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his 
>sword, and unto his bow,    and unto his girdle.
>
>
>
>
>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>deco at moscow.com
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----    From: rvrcowboy
>    To: Vision2020
>    Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:17 PM
>    Subject: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
>
>
>
>       Ed is forgetting, of course, that "the soul of Jonathan was bound to 
>    the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Then 
>Jonathan made    a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own 
>soul." 1 Samuel 18. So    much for Bathsheba. Uriah the Hittite bit the 
>dust for nothing.
>
>    Joan Opyr     4/22/2006
>
>    What is Joan    trying to make us believe here?  That David and 
>Jonathan engaged in    homosexual activities with each other?  That is 
>crazy, but then again,    who should be surprised at that from Joan?
>
>    This chapter    and verse is taken completely out of context and has 
>nothing to do with    homosexual activity what-so-ever but with the bond 
>between David and Jonathan    (Saul's son) as friends.  Joan has obviously 
>never had a friend she    trusted or loved with her soul.  Or, perhaps, not 
>one that she has not    had sex with anyway.
>
>    To offer up    this text as evidence that homosexuality is accepted in 
>the Bible is ludicrous    and bordering on blasphemy.  Talk about a stretch 
>of the imagination....    WOW!
>
>    Dick
>
>


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