[Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
sdredge at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 26 17:18:45 PDT 2006
The humorous thing, rvcowboy, is that you are the one who made the homosexual connection to the passage in the first place. Joan didn't. You went that direction all by yourself. And now you're saying that only a sick mind would do such a thing.
Why are you, and the Dougs, and Dale, and Ed so obsessed with homosexualty? Even creepier (at least to me), why are you guys so obsessed with male gay sex? I could kinda understand if you were excited about the idea of two women getting it on.
rvrcowboy <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote: 4 and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper robe which is upon him, and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto his bow, and unto his girdle.
Sorry to inform you, Art, but this is simply symbolic of the fact Jonathan is conceeding his royal robe, sword, bow and gear to David in recognition his father is naming David as king.
It has nothing to do with homosexuality and you would have to have a sick mind to believe so.
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Deco
To: Vision 2020
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
Here is the actual text from Young's Literal Translation of the Bible. Sounds a little suggestive to me.
1 Samuel 18
1 And it cometh to pass, when he finisheth to speak unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan hath been bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan loveth him as his own soul.
2 And Saul taketh him on that day, and hath not permitted him to turn back to the house of his father.
3 And Jonathan makethï¿½also Davidï¿½a covenant, because he loveth him as his own soul,
4 and Jonathan strippeth himself of the upper robe which is upon him, and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto his bow, and unto his girdle.
Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com
----- Original Message ----- From: rvrcowboy
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006
Ed is forgetting, of course, that "the soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Then Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul." 1 Samuel 18. So much for Bathsheba. Uriah the Hittite bit the dust for nothing.
Joan Opyr 4/22/2006
What is Joan trying to make us believe here? That David and Jonathan engaged in homosexual activities with each other? That is crazy, but then again, who should be surprised at that from Joan?
This chapter and verse is taken completely out of context and has nothing to do with homosexual activity what-so-ever but with the bond between David and Jonathan (Saul's son) as friends. Joan has obviously never had a friend she trusted or loved with her soul. Or, perhaps, not one that she has not had sex with anyway.
To offer up this text as evidence that homosexuality is accepted in the Bible is ludicrous and bordering on blasphemy. Talk about a stretch of the imagination.... WOW!
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