[Vision2020] Hispanic comments...

Joan Opyr joanopyr at moscow.com
Tue Apr 25 11:08:56 PDT 2006

Among other remarks allegedly reflective of Hispanic sentiment in the 
United States, Dick Flerchinger posted:

"Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets: 'Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth 
  Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired.  Go 
on. We  have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. 
It is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are 
going to take  over.'

This is oddly reminiscent of posts Doug Farris, Dale Courtney, Doug 
Wilson, Doug Jones, and Nate Wilson have made about how "they," meaning 
the fundamentalist Christian, Biblical inerrantists will eventually win 
their culture war simply by out reproducing us small family liberals.  
While we supposedly stick to the 2.3 children that we can actually 
afford, they'll skip the sin of birth control and have seven, or nine, 
or thirteen or more children -- all of whom they assume will think and 
believe just as they do.  A peculiar way of thinking, and not one I've 
found reflective of Christians in general, whether fundamentalist or 
not, or of Chicano/Latino people.  Sometimes the apple rolls a long way 
from the tree, and it grows a better and more pleasant fruit.

Apropos of nothing -- I'm in a stream of consciousness mood -- I 
remember an article I read in The Atlantic Monthly a few years back.  
It was written by one of 27 children (no exaggeration) who was born to 
a devout Catholic family in the midwest.  Neither he nor any of his 26 
siblings had chosen to have children themselves, and most had had 
failed marriages.  What I also remember about the piece (the author was 
named Stephen something) was that, when his mother died, they found 
that she had a bank safety deposit box stuffed full of chocolates.  
She'd been hoarding them, trying to keep some small thing to/for 

FYI, if Dick or anyone else is interested in the origins of his 
"Hispanics Speak Out" post, check out the following:


"Origins:   With immigration reform being one of the hot-button 
political issues in the U.S. in early 2006, the above-quoted collection 
of quotes from various Hispanic leaders and newspaper articles 
regarding U.S. immigrants started circulating widely on the Internet. 
Even though the issue was timely, this collection was actually compiled 
several years earlier and references statements made by Californians 
during 1990 (when immigration reform was also a hot-button political 
issue in California due to the controversial Proposition 187 ballot 
measure). Audio clips of many of the quotes reproduced above were 
collected on a CD offered by for sale by the California Coalition for 
Immigration Reform CCIR, and we include a link to the relevant clip 
after the discussion of each item below . . . "

Nothing is ever quite what it seems.

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment

PS: I was mugged once by a drunken white Anglo-Saxon guy.  He didn't 
use a knife or a gun, and he didn't beat me up.  He just said, "Give me 
some money," in a quiet scary voice, and so I did.  Damn white people.  
The South is crawling with them.

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