[Vision2020] Crazy Train

Sat Apr 22 10:25:41 PDT 2006

Ok - I'll bite...what the heck is the "quasi-homosexual" marriage?

Is that anything like a "quasi-ordained" pastor?

J  :]

>From: "Ed" <ecooper at turbonet.com>
>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,        "Vision2020 
>Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crazy Train
>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:08:03 -0700
>
>Donovon,
>
>I realize that it's already illegal; however, many are looking for the 
>loopholes... We need to get so serious about protecting the institution of 
>marriage (for the preservation of humanity) that we enact such a rigid law 
>that we leave no room open for even quasi-homosexual marriage, etc...
>
>"Cruel and unusual punishment"?...good point..
>
>And, yes, the state has far too much power...but that's another story in 
>itself..
>
>Ed
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Donovan Arnold
>   To: Ed ; Vision2020 Moscow
>   Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:11 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crazy Train
>
>
>   Ed,
>
>   Same sex marriage is already banned in Idaho. Is it not like banning 
>together to make sure that Idaho uses the US dollar? And if you hate 
>homosexuals and the spread of disease why would you stop homosexuals from 
>marrying? Seems like it would punish them and slow the spread of disease at 
>the same time.
>
>   I believe that the US Constitution banned all marriage when it forbid 
>cruel and unusual punishment. : )
>
>   And another thing. If marriage is a religious ceremony, why is the state 
>involved anyway?
>
>   Take Care,
>
>   _DJA
>
>   Ed <ecooper at turbonet.com> wrote:
>     As a newcomer to the area and a recent subscriber to this group, I 
>have read each post, concerning the issues that face this community, with 
>enthusiasm and sincere interest. One issue in particular stood out while 
>perusing Joan's entry. She mentioned, "we're facing a constitutional 
>amendment banning same-sex marriage on the November ballot."
>
>     I thought, wow; what better a time than now for concerned citizens to 
>band together and push this thing through? Why not make amends and ally 
>with the pastor of that church (Christ's Church) to accomplish a common 
>goal? I see a lot of religious talk (in this forum) as well as dialogue 
>regarding the future of the community. Rather than being silent on the 
>issue, we should spread the news. This is the ideal medium to initiate an 
>awareness campaign. Let's save our community form the evils that lurk. Same 
>sex marriage today; tomorrow, they'll be petitioning to marry man's best 
>friend. Funny this subject should arise; I think daily of the way the world 
>is going, especially the United States.
>
>     Why oppose same sex marriage? The reasons are endless...
>
>     Daily, we see news stories that deal with acts so perverse and extreme 
>that we are outraged (why would those boys rape the stripper? why does a 
>man kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating her? Why is the world 
>filled with never-before-seen disease?). It seems we ignore and tolerate 
>the deviant behavior that leads up to these acts, so gross until we can no 
>longer ignore them. Nobody asks why underage men are drinking, or why 
>females take their clothes off for these drunken men. Nobody questions the 
>sexual behavior that spreads incurable diseases. We simply witness the end 
>effect and wonder how we have arrived at this horrific juncture. If you 
>don't desire the effect, you must change the cause or root.
>
>
>     Equally responsible for the decadence, our nation has turned its back 
>on God-even kicking him out of the schools and courtrooms; we have allowed 
>every conceivable deviant behavior to be normalized and sanitized by 
>extremists in the name of free speech and equal rights. In the extreme, you 
>even hear of churches debating whether or not to allow homosexual clergy 
>and the like....What Bible are they reading?
>
>
>     These are merely some of the reasons that it is imperative that we 
>band together on this issue; other, more salient, ones follow.
>
>     Biology, physiology, reproduction, traditional morality, ethics, 
>mindless denigration of the institution of marriage, God's law (the Bible), 
>nature, pervasive, incurable disease, the family, homosexual supremacy 
>groups, loss of masculinity, female mistreatment, not to mention the 
>empirical social-science evidence about what happens in societies where 
>homosexuality is normalized (Netherlands, Canada, and Spain for example).  
>If we sit idly by, we are doomed.
>
>
>     Was the naming of "Brokeback Mountain" strategic,  symbolic of how our 
>Nation's back/will has been broke by homosexual activists? Well, neither my 
>back nor my will has been broken. I will not sit silently while a vocal 
>minority imposes their disgusting perversions on the rest of the world.
>
>     Ed
>
>     In a similar vein....we should refrain from the use of the word "gay" 
>when referring to homosexuals. The innocent word that implies lively and 
>spirited has been hijacked by the far left resulting in some oxymoronic 
>pseudonym.....
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Joan Opyr
>       To: Vision2020 Moscow
>       Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:34 PM
>       Subject: [Vision2020] Crazy Train
>
>
>       Dear Visionaries:
>
>       I am done arguing with Donovan.  Perhaps not forever, but certainly 
>for
>       now.  If list members want to talk about water, let's talk about 
>water.
>         We cannot, however, only talk about water.  There's more at stake 
>in
>       the future of Moscow.  Smart growth, dumb growth, and anti-growth;
>       growth that benefits the few, not the many.  There's also urban
>       renewal, development options, the University of Idaho, traffic along
>       the Miracle Mile, and parking in the downtown retail district.  As 
>we
>       get into issues of cultural hegemony and differing visions of what
>       constitutes a healthy and diverse community, we're bound to get into
>       sticky territory.  We're facing a constitutional amendment banning
>       same-sex marriage on the November ballot.  I expect some important 
>and
>       potentially hot debates over that.  And when we do get around to it, 
>I
>       warn you, Pastor You-Know-Who and his You-Know-Church will likely 
>serve
>       as both the tar baby and the briar patch.  If 
>He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named
>       takes as active a role in this political fight as he took in the 
>1994
>       battle over Proposition One, then it's going to get hot in here.  
>Might
>       want to open a window.
>
>       That said, I think it's important to recognize that unmoderated chat
>       groups are like the railroad tracks in a Roadrunner cartoon.  We, 
>the
>       list members, are like Wile E. Coyote.  We're on the train, chasing 
>the
>       Roadrunner, when we look out the window and see that we're running 
>out
>       of track.  So, we open up the Acme box and hang out on the engine,
>       laying track before the train just as fast as we can.  What happens?
>       We find ourselves halfway over a chasm; we look down, pause, and 
>drop,
>       right to the bottom of a deep canyon, where we thump to a halt in a
>       cloud of dust.  But we always get back up again.  That's the nature 
>of
>       this list, and it's the nature of every other unmoderated list.
>       Freedom of expression is not freedom from annoyance, and if it were,
>       I'd be bored senseless.  This is a great community, and I'm always
>       interested to hear what most of you have to say.
>
>       It's true that my Bozo Bin is wide and deep, and that I filter out
>       quite a few posters, but I have relatives that I don't like, either. 
>  I
>       don't want to hang out with them, but I don't think they should be
>       tossed from the family.  I still meet up with them once a year at 
>the
>       family reunion, and we watch one another eat fried chicken.  (It's
>       always too greasy.  Best to stick to the deviled eggs.)
>
>       Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>       www.joanopyr.com
>
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