[Vision2020] Crazy Train

Sat Apr 22 05:59:47 PDT 2006

Ed said –

“Why oppose same sex marriage? The reasons are endless
..

Daily, we see news stories that deal with acts so perverse and extreme that
we are outraged (why would those boys rape the stripper?  why does a man
kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating her? Why is the world filled
with never-before-seen disease?)”

Excuse me, Ed.  I seriously doubt that any of the instances cited above
were/are the result of same-sex marriages.

Boys raping strippers?  That sounds more hetero than homo to me.

But, perhaps you are onto something.  In the absence of diversity reflected
in accepting same-sex marriages, our quaint little town of Moscow will be
forced to confine its diversity to wife-swapping parties 

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"

  _____  

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:24 AM
To: Vision2020 Moscow
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crazy Train

As a newcomer to the area and a recent subscriber to this group, I have read
each post, concerning the issues that face this community, with enthusiasm
and sincere interest. One issue in particular stood out while perusing
Joan’s entry. She mentioned, “we’re facing a constitutional amendment
banning same-sex marriage on the November ballot.”

I thought, wow; what better a time than now for concerned citizens to band
together and push this thing through? Why not make amends and ally with the
pastor of that church (Christ’s Church) to accomplish a common goal? I see a
lot of religious talk (in this forum) as well as dialogue regarding the
future of the community. Rather than being silent on the issue, we should
spread the news. This is the ideal medium to initiate an awareness campaign.
Let’s save our community form the evils that lurk. Same sex marriage today;
tomorrow, they’ll be petitioning to marry man’s best friend. Funny this
subject should arise; I think daily of the way the world is going,
especially the United States. 

Why oppose same sex marriage? The reasons are endless
..

Daily, we see news stories that deal with acts so perverse and extreme that
we are outraged (why would those boys rape the stripper? why does a man
kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating her? Why is the world filled
with never-before-seen disease?). It seems we ignore and tolerate the
deviant behavior that leads up to these acts, so gross until we can no
longer ignore them. Nobody asks why underage men are drinking, or why
females take their clothes off for these drunken men. Nobody questions the
sexual behavior that spreads incurable diseases. We simply witness the end
effect and wonder how we have arrived at this horrific juncture. If you
don’t desire the effect, you must change the cause or root.  

Equally responsible for the decadence, our nation has turned its back on
God—even kicking him out of the schools and courtrooms; we have allowed
every conceivable deviant behavior to be normalized and sanitized by
extremists in the name of free speech and equal rights. In the extreme, you
even hear of churches debating whether or not to allow homosexual clergy and
the like....What Bible are they reading?

These are merely some of the reasons that it is imperative that we band
together on this issue; other, more salient, ones follow. 

Biology, physiology, reproduction, traditional morality, ethics, mindless
denigration of the institution of marriage, God’s law (the Bible), nature,
pervasive, incurable disease, the family, homosexual supremacy groups, loss
of masculinity, female mistreatment, not to mention the empirical
social-science evidence about what happens in societies where homosexuality
is normalized (Netherlands, Canada, and Spain for example).  If we sit idly
by, we are doomed. 

Was the naming of “Brokeback Mountain” strategic,  symbolic of how our
Nation’s back/will has been broke by homosexual activists? Well, neither my
back nor my will has been broken
 I will not sit silently while a vocal
minority imposes their disgusting perversions on the rest of the world. 

Ed

In a similar vein....we should refrain from the use of the word "gay" when
referring to homosexuals. The innocent word that implies lively and spirited
has been hijacked by the far left resulting in some oxymoronic
pseudonym.....

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Joan Opyr <mailto:joanopyr at moscow.com>  

To: Vision2020 <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>  Moscow 

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:34 PM

Subject: [Vision2020] Crazy Train

Dear Visionaries:

I am done arguing with Donovan.  Perhaps not forever, but certainly for 
now.  If list members want to talk about water, let's talk about water. 
  We cannot, however, only talk about water.  There's more at stake in 
the future of Moscow.  Smart growth, dumb growth, and anti-growth; 
growth that benefits the few, not the many.  There's also urban 
renewal, development options, the University of Idaho, traffic along 
the Miracle Mile, and parking in the downtown retail district.  As we 
get into issues of cultural hegemony and differing visions of what 
constitutes a healthy and diverse community, we're bound to get into 
sticky territory.  We're facing a constitutional amendment banning 
same-sex marriage on the November ballot.  I expect some important and 
potentially hot debates over that.  And when we do get around to it, I 
warn you, Pastor You-Know-Who and his You-Know-Church will likely serve 
as both the tar baby and the briar patch.  If He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named 
takes as active a role in this political fight as he took in the 1994 
battle over Proposition One, then it's going to get hot in here.  Might 
want to open a window.

That said, I think it's important to recognize that unmoderated chat 
groups are like the railroad tracks in a Roadrunner cartoon.  We, the 
list members, are like Wile E. Coyote.  We're on the train, chasing the 
Roadrunner, when we look out the window and see that we're running out 
of track.  So, we open up the Acme box and hang out on the engine, 
laying track before the train just as fast as we can.  What happens?  
We find ourselves halfway over a chasm; we look down, pause, and drop, 
right to the bottom of a deep canyon, where we thump to a halt in a 
cloud of dust.  But we always get back up again.  That's the nature of 
this list, and it's the nature of every other unmoderated list.  
Freedom of expression is not freedom from annoyance, and if it were, 
I'd be bored senseless.  This is a great community, and I'm always 
interested to hear what most of you have to say.

It's true that my Bozo Bin is wide and deep, and that I filter out 
quite a few posters, but I have relatives that I don't like, either.  I 
don't want to hang out with them, but I don't think they should be 
tossed from the family.  I still meet up with them once a year at the 
family reunion, and we watch one another eat fried chicken.  (It's 
always too greasy.  Best to stick to the deviled eggs.)

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com

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