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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ed said –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Why oppose same sex marriage? The
reasons are endless…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Daily, we see news stories that deal with
acts so perverse and extreme that we are outraged (why would those boys rape
the stripper? why does a man kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating
her? Why is the world filled with never-before-seen disease?)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Excuse me, Ed. I seriously doubt that any
of the instances cited above were/are the result of same-sex marriages.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Boys raping strippers? That sounds more
hetero than homo to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But, perhaps you are onto something. In
the absence of diversity reflected in accepting same-sex marriages, our quaint
little town of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
will be forced to confine its diversity to wife-swapping parties <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Seeya round town, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>"Life should NOT be a journey to the
grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Ed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 22, 2006
12:24 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Vision2020 Moscow<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Crazy
Train</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>As a newcomer to the area and a recent subscriber to this
group, I have read each post, concerning the issues that face this community,
with enthusiasm and sincere interest. One issue in particular stood out while
perusing Joan’s entry. She mentioned, “we’re facing a
constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage on the November
ballot.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I thought, wow; what better a time than now for concerned
citizens to band together and push this thing through? Why not make amends and
ally with the pastor of that church (Christ’s Church) to accomplish a
common goal? I see a lot of religious talk (in this forum) as well as dialogue
regarding the future of the community. Rather than being silent on the issue,
we should spread the news. This is the ideal medium to initiate an awareness
campaign. Let’s save our community form the evils that lurk. Same sex
marriage today; tomorrow, they’ll be petitioning to marry man’s
best friend. Funny this subject should arise; I think daily of the way the
world is going, especially the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">United
States</st1:place></st1:country-region></u1:place></u1:country-region>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Why oppose same sex marriage? The reasons are
endless…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Daily, we see news stories that deal with acts so perverse
and extreme that we are outraged (why would those boys rape the stripper? why
does a man kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating her? Why is the world
filled with never-before-seen disease?). It seems we ignore and tolerate the
deviant behavior that leads up to these acts, so gross until we can no longer
ignore them. Nobody asks why underage men are drinking, or why females take
their clothes off for these drunken men. Nobody questions the sexual behavior
that spreads incurable diseases. We simply witness the end effect and wonder
how we have arrived at this horrific juncture. If you don’t desire the
effect, you must change the cause or root. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Equally responsible for the decadence, our nation has turned
its back on God—even kicking him out of the schools and courtrooms; we
have allowed every conceivable deviant behavior to be normalized and sanitized
by extremists in the name of free speech and equal rights. In the extreme, you
even hear of churches debating whether or not to allow homosexual clergy and
the like....What Bible are they reading?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#222222" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'>These are merely some
of the reasons that it is imperative that we band together on this issue;
other, more salient, ones follow. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#222222" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#222222" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'>Biology, physiology,
reproduction, traditional morality, ethics, mindless denigration of the
institution of marriage, God’s law (the Bible), nature, pervasive,
incurable disease, the family, homosexual supremacy groups, loss of
masculinity, female mistreatment, not to mention the empirical social-science
evidence about what happens in societies where homosexuality is normalized
(Netherlands, Canada, and Spain for example). If we sit idly by, we are
doomed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Was the naming of <i><span style='font-style:italic'>“<st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:PlaceName u2:st="on">Brokeback</st1:PlaceName></u1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on"><u1:PlaceType u2:st="on">Mountain</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></u1:PlaceType></u1:place>”</span></i>
strategic, symbolic of how our Nation’s back/will has been
broke by homosexual activists? Well, neither my back nor my will has been
broken… I will not sit silently while a vocal minority imposes their
disgusting perversions on the rest of the world. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ed</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In a similar vein....we should refrain from the use of the
word "gay" when referring to homosexuals. The innocent word that
implies lively and spirited has been hijacked by the far left resulting in some
oxymoronic pseudonym.....</span></font><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:joanopyr@moscow.com" title="joanopyr@moscow.com">Joan Opyr</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020
Moscow</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday, April 21,
2006 12:34 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Vision2020] Crazy
Train<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Visionaries:<br>
<br>
I am done arguing with Donovan. Perhaps not forever, but certainly for <br>
now. If list members want to talk about water, let's talk about water. <br>
We cannot, however, only talk about water. There's more at stake
in <br>
the future of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.
Smart growth, dumb growth, and anti-growth; <br>
growth that benefits the few, not the many. There's also urban <br>
renewal, development options, the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Idaho</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, traffic along <br>
the Miracle Mile, and parking in the downtown retail district. As we <br>
get into issues of cultural hegemony and differing visions of what <br>
constitutes a healthy and diverse community, we're bound to get into <br>
sticky territory. We're facing a constitutional amendment banning <br>
same-sex marriage on the November ballot. I expect some important and <br>
potentially hot debates over that. And when we do get around to it, I <br>
warn you, Pastor You-Know-Who and his You-Know-Church will likely serve <br>
as both the tar baby and the briar patch. If He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named <br>
takes as active a role in this political fight as he took in the 1994 <br>
battle over Proposition One, then it's going to get hot in here. Might <br>
want to open a window.<br>
<br>
That said, I think it's important to recognize that unmoderated chat <br>
groups are like the railroad tracks in a Roadrunner cartoon. We, the <br>
list members, are like Wile E. Coyote. We're on the train, chasing the <br>
Roadrunner, when we look out the window and see that we're running out <br>
of track. So, we open up the Acme box and hang out on the engine, <br>
laying track before the train just as fast as we can. What happens?
<br>
We find ourselves halfway over a chasm; we look down, pause, and drop, <br>
right to the bottom of a deep canyon, where we thump to a halt in a <br>
cloud of dust. But we always get back up again. That's the nature
of <br>
this list, and it's the nature of every other unmoderated list. <br>
Freedom of expression is not freedom from annoyance, and if it were, <br>
I'd be bored senseless. This is a great community, and I'm always <br>
interested to hear what most of you have to say.<br>
<br>
It's true that my Bozo Bin is wide and deep, and that I filter out <br>
quite a few posters, but I have relatives that I don't like, either. I <br>
don't want to hang out with them, but I don't think they should be <br>
tossed from the family. I still meet up with them once a year at the <br>
family reunion, and we watch one another eat fried chicken. (It's <br>
always too greasy. Best to stick to the deviled eggs.)<br>
<br>
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment<br>
<a href="http://www.joanopyr.com">www.joanopyr.com</a><br>
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