[Vision2020] Morrison

Bruce and Jean Livingston jeanlivingston at turbonet.com
Thu Apr 20 10:51:42 PDT 2006 

Carl,
He did the right thing going pro.  And he'll be better than JJ Redick.
Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard?


> And with Bruce's concise interpretation and analysis, which I am in full 
> agreement with, and realizing that the alleged incident involved only one 
> single individual acting on his/her own, may we put this molehill of an 
> issue to bed, consigning it to the dustbin of history, with the 
> understanding that there was no massive conspiracy afoot, allowing us to 
> entertain more important issues, such as whether or not Adam Morrison 
> should have turned pro or waited another year?  That was all one sentence, 
> by the way.     Carl Westberg Jr.
>
>
>>From: "Bruce and Jean Livingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>
>>To: "Craine Kit" <kcraine at verizon.net>, "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>CC: Vision2020 Moscow <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard?
>>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:20:23 -0700
>>
>>I suppose it is relevant what the criminal law defines as trespass, and I 
>>don't have the time to research all of the other laws that might 
>>conceivably apply to the alleged Jackie Woolf photography shoot, but 
>>wandering around on anyone's private property without permission seems 
>>wrong to me.  If there isn't an applicable law, "there oughta be a  law." 
>>One ought to ask permission, notwithstanding the lack of posted "no 
>>trespassing" signs, and if nobody is home to give you permission, you 
>>ought to walk back down the sidewalk from the front door that wasn't 
>>answered and leave the property immediately without wandering around on 
>>someone else's property.
>>
>>Bruce Livingston
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craine Kit" <kcraine at verizon.net>
>>To: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>Cc: "Vision2020 Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:59 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard?
>>
>>
>>>Just a note for clarification.
>>>
>>>I’m not going to quote all 75 sections of Idaho state law that deal  with 
>>>trespassing. But, in summary, trespassing on property requires  leaving 
>>>gates open, damaging property in specified ways, or ignoring  "no 
>>>trespassing" signs posted at defined intervals/in defined places  (see 
>>>18-7011 below.) Trespassing on privacy requires peering into a  structure 
>>>without having a visible or lawful purpose (see 18-7006  below).
>>>
>>>Kit Craine
>>>
>>>
>>>Idaho State Code
>>>TITLE  18 -  CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
>>>CHAPTER 70 - TRESPASS AND MALICIOUS INJURIES TO PROPERTY
>>>
>>>     18-7011.  CRIMINAL TRESPASS -- DEFINITION AND PUNISHMENT. (1)  Any 
>>> person who, without consent of the owner or person in charge of  any 
>>> lands which are inclosed by fences of any description sufficient  to 
>>> show the boundaries of the land inclosed, shall go upon such lands  and 
>>> shall leave open any gates on or about said premises, or who  shall tear 
>>> down or lay down any fencing, or who shall willfully  remove, mutilate, 
>>> damage or destroy any "No Trespassing" signs or  markers, or who shall 
>>> go through cultivated crops that have not been  harvested, or who shall 
>>> damage any property thereon, or who without  permission of the owner or 
>>> the owner's agent enters the real property  of another person where such 
>>> real property is posted with "No  Trespassing" signs or other notices of 
>>> like meaning spaced at  intervals of not less than one (1) notice per 
>>> six hundred sixty (660)  feet along such real property, is guilty of a 
>>> misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment 
>>> in a county jail  not exceeding six (6) months or by a fine of not less 
>>> than twenty- five dollars ($25.00) and not more than one thousand 
>>> dollars ($1,000)  or by both such fine and imprisonment. Where the 
>>> geographical  configuration of the real property is such that entry can 
>>> reasonably  be made only at certain points of access, such property is 
>>> posted  sufficiently for all purposes of this section if said signs or 
>>> notices are posted at such points of access.
>>>     As used in this subsection and in section 18-7008, Idaho Code: 
>>> "enters," "entry" and "entering" mean going upon or over real  property 
>>> either in person or by causing any object, substance or  force to go 
>>> upon or over real property.
>>>     (2)  No motor vehicle shall be willfully or intentionally driven 
>>> into, upon, over or through any private land actively devoted to 
>>> cultivated crops without the consent of the owner of the land or the 
>>> tenant, lessee or agent of the owner of the land actively devoted to 
>>> cultivated crops. Violation of the provisions of this section shall  be 
>>> a misdemeanor. For the purpose of this subsection, motor vehicle  shall 
>>> be defined as set forth in sections 49-114 and 49-123, Idaho  Code. Land 
>>> actively devoted to cultivated crops shall be defined as  land that is 
>>> used to produce field crops including, but not limited  to, grains, feed 
>>> crops, legumes, fruits and vegetables.
>>>
>>>Idaho State Code
>>>TITLE  18 - CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
>>>CHAPTER 70 - TRESPASS AND MALICIOUS INJURIES TO PROPERTY
>>>
>>>     18-7006.  TRESPASS OF PRIVACY. It shall be unlawful for any  person, 
>>> upon the private property of another, to intentionally look,  peer or 
>>> peek in the door, window, or other transparent opening of any  inhabited 
>>> building or other structure located thereon, without  visible or lawful 
>>> purpose. Any person who violates the provisions of  this section shall 
>>> be guilty of a misdemeanor.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Apr 19, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Andreas Schou wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 4/19/06, g. crabtree <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>>>>>Judging from the enormous silence that greeted this topic when I  first
>>>>>brought it up on 2&3 April, holding your breath and waiting on an 
>>>>>answer
>>>>>will be hazardous to your health. Apparently trespassing isn't as 
>>>>>egregious
>>>>>a crime as providing shelter to collage students.
>>>>
>>>>In Idaho, someone must receive a tresspass notice before it becomes a
>>>>"crime." If they then return, it is considered misdemeanor
>>>>tresspassing, and is punishable by a small fine.
>>>>
>>>>-- ACS
>>>>
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