[Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Playfield

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Fri Apr 7 11:25:45 PDT 2006


Lights can be designed so that they illuminate only the playing fields.  Of 
course there will be some escaping ambient light but not much.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
To: "James Reynolds" <chapandmaize at hotmail.com>; <shawnc at outtrack.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Playfield


> There should be some sort of compromise here. Put in the lights.  Lights 
> are a safety issue also.They do not  have to be on all the time. I doubt 
> the the observatory would require no lights every night or that the 
> playfield would need them every night. Work out a schedule that 
> accommodates both.
>
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "James Reynolds" chapandmaize at hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:57 -0700
> To: shawnc at outtrack.com
> Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Playfield
>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> Thank you for the information, it is much appreciated. The university
>> physics department runs the observatory and although I don't know much 
>> about
>> what they study it's the stuff that gets men on the moon and ships to 
>> Mars.
>> I think that today's physicists would need at least introductory level
>> knowledge of astral physics so it is probably considered critical to the
>> department's educational and research goals. What I heard is that if the
>> field lights were on at night their equipment is so sensitive that the
>> Southern horizon would be washed out completely.  The observatory has 
>> been
>> in place for at least the thirty years that I have been in Moscow so they 
>> do
>> have squatters rights and it isn't something that can be moved.
>>
>> I am, as I am sure most of Moscow's residents are, happy for the success 
>> of
>> your program and it would be good if it could have all the resources it
>> could use. Perhaps the site selection is not completely appropriate for 
>> the
>> ball fields but I think they would be great to have at that site even
>> without the lights. the two additional Ripken fields ought to be a great
>> boon to your scheduling problems even if you cannot schedule night games.
>> All of us parents have had to cut work to attend our children's games, 
>> that
>> is part of the "game" for us to be inconvenienced so. I think having the
>> parents inconvenienced is better than having the children up trying to
>> perform late into the evening.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Shawn Clabough" <shawnc at outtrack.com>
>> >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Playfield
>> >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:19:28 -0700
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of James Reynolds
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:13 AM
>> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Playfield
>> >
>> >Matt,
>> >
>> >I wasn't part of the committee but judging from the makeup it seems that
>> >the
>> >interested parties were all engaged so I am allowing their compromise to
>> >
>> >stand for me also. Of course some folk wanted lights or it would not
>> >have
>> >been an issue but the final thought of the committee was that the lights
>> >
>> >would cause more harm than good. I think that this was driven most by
>> >the
>> >fact that the UI has the observatory on the golf course hill and the
>> >southern sky is very important to that program. It seems reasonable that
>> >the
>> >lights not be put up if they would impinge upon an existing use of that
>> >horizon.
>> >
>> >I am also not so sure that the lights would be much utilized by the
>> >children. It seems as if the lights were more wanted by the adult league
>> >
>> >teams and the new fields are supposed to be for the children.
>> >
>> >James Reynolds
>> >
>> >-------------
>> >
>> >As I do the scheduling for the Cal Ripken league (8-12 year olds), I
>> >will speak to this.  I will first say that I am happy that there was a
>> >compromise reached and happy that the number of fields was kept and the
>> >committee acknowledged that there is still additional need and for some
>> >location to have lights.
>> >
>> >As for the kids using the lights, I would have to disagree that they
>> >would not use them.  I could put them to good use.  As it is now, during
>> >the first half of the season, I schedule games at 4pm and 6pm so that
>> >the later game can finish by 8pm just as the sun goes down.  This is not
>> >the best because the 4pm games causes parents to have to leave work
>> >and/or have someone else take their child to the game and they miss most
>> >or all of the game.  For the 6pm game, the shadows do get long towards
>> >the end of the game and it becomes hard to see the ball.  For the second
>> >half of the season, I switch to 5pm and 7pm game times to make it easier
>> >on parents, but lighting during the 7pm game would still be beneficial.
>> >
>> >I would like to thank the committee for their work on this and look
>> >forward to having the fields ready for use.  There are 19 teams (over
>> >200 children) in the Cal Ripken league this year and finding fields to
>> >get everyone a fair amount of games can be difficult and these new
>> >fields will help.  The league has been expanding every year, so having
>> >them acknowledge need beyond these fields is appreciated.
>> >
>> >Shawn Clabough
>> >
>> >
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