[Vision2020] lemeno

[keely emerinemix]

The last 24 hours have been fraught with Aaron Rench and Doug Farris on one 
side, seeming to scramble up a sewage-covered hill for traction -- without 
success -- and Rosemary, Joan, and Nick responding deftly.  It would be fun, 
if the stench of sewage weren't constantly sticking to Doug's and Aaron's 
feet as they tread through Visionland.

Jim's comments below are enlightening.  I certainly don't think of the Kirk 
stepping up to the plate to lift the poor from their situation.  (A Kirker 
once earnestly proclaimed to me that "the Bible says 'the poor you'll always 
have with you,' so there must be a reason, right?"  Dear God.  Words failed 
me . . . )   My face-to-face exchange two weeks ago with Aaron Rench 
regarding his assertion that Christ Church would be among the first to "take 
in" the kids at the alternative school confirms that either they are as 
ignorant of their leadership's views and actions as some have claimed, or 
that they're lying.   (I told him he was lying, and that his words made me 
want to vomit.  Sometimes a serrated edge without humor is a necessary 
thing).  And who would blame them?  If I had to defend in public the things 
that the Kirk has done, I'd be tempted to lie, too.

But there is another choice, the only moral one:  either fight it from the 
inside, or leave.

My guess is that we won't see revolution from within, or exodus out.  And 
it's a damned shame.

keely emerine mix


From: Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] lemeno
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:52:20 -0700

To "lemeno, Doug!":

That an adult would use such a closing regularly makes makes me less 
inclined to take you seriously, but after reading your question which for 
convenience follows below, I have a question for you.

"How many derelicts, winos, wife beaters and thieves have been changed  from 
the inside out by anything that he or Nick Gier ever produced,  written or 
spoken? Give me the name of just one individual that has  changed from 
shipwrecked to saint."

Can you give me any example of Christ Church or its related ventures having 
raised up any derelicts, ever? As a church, do they contribute to any soup 
kitchen or any homeless shelter? I know from several conversations with 
various members (at various levels in the hierarchy) that they each feel the 
public school lunch program should be discontinued. We are talking about not 
feeding kids at public school who don't get fed at home. This is just one 
example were what is taught at Doug Wilson, Inc is not uplifting, but 
actually mean and selfish.Perhaps you are talking about some other kind of 
Christians than the "christians" who lead Christ Church? Seriously, I want 
to know, does Christ Church do anything positive outside its own community? 
I am merely pointing out that not all churches are proponents of the 
uplifting to which you refer. Perhaps in this case, the "change from the 
inside out" is quite negative....perhaps even immoral?

My apologies if this question is misdirected. In that case, perhaps someone 
else answer.

Jim Meyer







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