[Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
Kit Craine
kcraine at moscow.com
Thu Sep 8 18:28:25 PDT 2005
However, imagine Dworsak (or however its spelled) beginning to bulge.
There’s just enough time to evacuate maybe 10,000 people up the
hill--to Moscow. Then, the dam breaks! Lewiston, Clarkston, Lapwai,
Orofino, and may other towns in the canyons are wiped out!
Of course, the levees do no good. We just lose a chunk of our place and
a few people.
Moving right along, to the next topic.
Kit Craine
On Sep 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Pat Kraut wrote:
> No wonder I feel sometimes that I am missing part of the conversation!
> I just checked my postini account at FSR and there were some emails
> there of which this is one.
> Lewiston and Clarkston do not get hurricanes. The ocean is a few miles
> away. The entire area is not deteriorating the levees are not in
> danger of breaking. Not the same thing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sunil Ramalingam
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
>
>
> Should we get rid of the levees in Lewiston and Clarkston?
>
> Sunil
>
> From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:12:53 -0700
>
>
> I do not want us to repair any more levees. Something is terribly
> wrong when you can stand on a street and see ships go by above you!
> This is an opportunity for the area to move back and let the ocean
> have its land back. Just how much money do you think it would take to
> 'study' it one more time. Just how much do we spend to 'save' New
> Orleans?? It really isn't that 'special' a city! It is time to go a
> totally different direction.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Hansen
> To: 'Andreas Schou' ; 'Pat Kraut'
> Cc: 'vision2020'
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 6:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
>
>
> I am with you 100%, Andreas.
>
>
>
> Under our current president, FEMA was relegated to being a sub-agency
> within Homeland Security, thus drastically reducing its budget.
>
>
>
> And who does Bush appoint as Under Secretary of Homeland Security for
> Emergency Preparedness and Response (FEMA)?
>
>
>
> Michael D. Brown, a former Colorado and Oklahoma attorney and former
> bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the
> Oklahoma Supreme Court, a person with virtually no experience in
> emergency management. An attorney in charge of our nation’s emergency
> management? He may not be able to solve anything, but he will most
> certainly be able to put some serious spin on his responses to
> questions.
>
>
>
> Ms Kraut stated:
>
>
>
> “Why does everyone want to make the Fed responsible for everything??
> When did they take over?”
>
>
>
> HUH?? What part of “Federal Emergency Management” are you struggling
> with, Ms Kraut?
>
>
>
> FEMA is struggling to identify additional large temporary holding
> facilities (comparable to the Houston Astrodome). This is a simple
> question that should have been addressed a couple years ago when the
> mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana were seeking
> federal funds to repair the 17th Street levee.
>
>
>
> But then, we wouldn’t want to interrupt George Bush’s vacation with
> something so trivial now, would we?
>
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>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Schou
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:02 PM
> To: Pat Kraut
> Cc: vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/3/05, Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> I disagree! Someone in Louisiana should have told her! Why does
> everyone
> want to make the Fed responsible for everything?? When did they take
> over?
> The locals could have done whole rescue operation if they had paid
> attention. There is a picture circulating showing the school buses all
> under
> water. The mayor could have confiscated them and sent those people out
> of
> town by force. But, he keeps yelling about the feds not coming in
> time! He
> is just hoping no one asks him too many questions.\
>
>
>
> Pat --
>
>
>
> It is the federal government's responsibility, like it or not, to do
> disaster relief. You can argue about whether or not it should be their
> responsibility later, but the fact is, at the time of Hurricane
> Katrina, it was FEMA's responsibility to handle the evacuation
> planning and then pick up the pieces.
>
>
>
> George W. had put a chronic fuck-up in charge of FEMA who was fired
> from his last job for malfeasance, dismantled their planning office as
> it transitioned to the Department of Homeland Security, sent the
> Louisiana National Guard to search for phantom WMDs in Iraq, cut all
> disaster mitigation funding to the /entire state/ of Louisiana, and
> defunded the levees. It is at his desk that the buck stops, but he and
> his stand-ins are doing their best to blame everybody else: the
> victims, the first responders, the police, the looters. Thisis a
> failure of management at the highest levels: food was dropped in Banda
> Aceh, Indonesia, within /two days/ of the tsunami. Food got to New
> Orleans, LA, /today/, or six days after the hurricane. We are a
> first-world nation. This should not be happening here.
>
>
>
> If I had done this in my work, I would have had my ass canned, and
> then I would have been sued, and for God's sake, they would have been
> right to do it, too. This administration has abdicated any pretense of
> taking responsibility for its
>
>
>
> -- ACS
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