[Vision2020] Joan's Defense of the Taliban on September 11th

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 30 23:19:27 PST 2005


Mary J. Opyr wrote:

“While it’s true that many trained in Osama bin
Lauden’s terrorist camps in Afghanistan, and that bin
Laden was in that country at the invitation of the
Taliban, none (NONE) of the September 11th hijackers
were Afghanis, and the Taliban neither coordinated nor
funded the attacks.  That was the work of bin Laden's
Al Qaeda and of Khalid 
Sheikh Mohammed.”

Oh Mary, oh Mary, if they were not actually flying the
plane it does not mean that they were not involved in
the planning of the attacks. Such statements show your
lack of knowledge of the Taliban, how they are funded,
and their connection to the attacks on 9/11. 

The Taliban was supported by the Saudi Arabian and
Pakistani government to end the Afghanistan civil war
and establish stability in a region so that a gas
pipeline could be built. The Taliban was funded by
Saudi Arabians, the Jami'at-e 'Ulema-e Islam (JUI), a
political party, which gets their money from oil and
has strong connections to Osama Bin Laden. Osama Bin
Laden is the father in law of Muhammad Omar, the
leader of the Taliban.   

The Taliban knew about, helped organize, and plan the
attacks on 9/11. Their part was to train a military to
defend their organization against the US soldiers that
they KNEW were going to enter the country after the
attacks against the US in September, as well as to
harbor and protect Osama Bin Laden. The Taliban
orchestrated their military attacks against the
Northern Alliance, their chief military and political
rivals, to coincide with the attacks on 9/11—including
the assignation of the Northern Alliance commander,
Ahmad Shah Masoud, on September 9, 2001. Bin Laden,
moved to Afghanistan in 1998 to plan the attacks on
the US. 

The Taliban leader, to this very day, is working with
his father in law, Osama Bin Laudin, head of Al Qaeda,
on fulfilling the plan on September 11th, 2001, which
is making sure they get away with it—Because you know
damn well as I do, that if Muhammad and Bin Laden were
not sure of escape, they would not have done what they
had done. So they planned together to get away with
9/11, their plan is working.

“the September 11th attacks were organized and
coordinated by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,”—Mary J. Opyr.

You are also incorrect about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
The captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is considered to
be the person chiefly responsible for planning and
controlling Al Qaeda's international terrorism
network. Not the actual attacks on 9/11, as you
stated. 


“Donovan: I have long since given up the hope that you
will look before you leap or research before you
write.”

Mary: I have done my research, I studied international
terrorism, took a class on it, read books on it, and
oh yeah, got a degree in political science.
Fortunately, I do not consume the spoon fed false
information presented by FOX News, the Republican
Congress, and Bush’s September 11th report on what
they want you to know and think. 

“You are always – always – talking out of your
backside.”

Please, grow up your almost 40 now.


Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

PS--If you want to make lists Mary, here is a list for
you of a few American boys that died at the hands of
your innocent Taliban in their efforts to protect Bin
Laudin and his son, Omar Mohammed, leader of the
Taliban: 

Checo, Steven Sgt.22 Army  
Christopher J.Sgt. 1st Class28Army  Afghanistan 
Peter P. Sgt. 1st Class32 Army  Afghanistan 
Corlew, Sean M.Tech. Sgt.37 Air Force  Afghanistan
Shero, Anissa A. Staff Sgt.31 Air Force  Afghanistan 
Vance Jr., Gene A.Sgt.38 Army  Afghanistan 
Galewski, Justin J.Staff Sgt.28 Army  Afghanistan 
Maugans, Jamie O.Sgt.27 Army  Afghanistan 
Romero, Daniel A. Sgt. 1st Class30 Army  Afghanistan
Craig, Brian T.Staff Sgt. 27 Army   
Anderson, Marc A. Specialist 30 Army  Afghanistan 
Crose, Peter P.Sgt.22 Army  Afghanistan
Chapman, John A. Tech. Sgt. 36 Air Force  Afghanistan 
Jason D.Senior Airman Afghanistan

I could name more. . .
http://icasualties.org/oef/Afghanistan.aspx







--- Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 29 Oct 2005, at 20:57, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
> 
> > Donovan,
> >
> > You don't know about my hanging around with
> children because you don't 
> > know the first friggin' thing about me.  As a
> parent with a child 
> > there, yep, I hang out with kids from West Park. 
> Moscow kids, not 
> > that I have anything against Viola kids.
> >
> > Now, did the principal tell you what proportion of
> the West Park 
> > population was from Viola?  You wrote that most of
> the kids were from 
> > Viola.  Is that from the principal?
> >
> > Now, since we've been blessed with more frothy
> examples of your 
> > digital diarrhea on this listserve, I assume
> you've had time to look 
> > at my post and yours.  I'm waiting for you to show
> me where I made any 
> > of the statements you've absurdly attributed to
> me.
> >
> > Go ahead, show me.  You can't, because you're
> wrong, and you're not 
> > adult enough to admit it.  You make asinine
> statements about other 
> > people because you start typing without thinking,
> and then you don't 
> > have the spine to either retract them or admit
> you're wrong.   
> >
> > You never said the Taliban were partially
> responsible for the 
> > September 11 attacks, Donovan; that's your
> pathetic back-track 
> > position, as you wipe the egg off your face.  You
> held them SOLELY 
> > responsible for the attacks, you said they
> committed them.  You didn't 
> > mention Al Quaida.  That's why I bothered to
> respond, because I'm 
> > pretty sure not one Afghani actually participated
> in the attacks.
> >
> >  And I didn't compare them to Christ Church
> either.  Show me where I 
> > said that.  I provided you with my post and yours,
> so you could have 
> > another look.  You've had time to read them both.
> Put up or shut up.
> 
> Dear Sunil and other Visionaries:
> 
> According the report of the 9/11 Commission, the
> September 11th attacks 
> were organized and coordinated by Khalid Sheikh
> Mohammed, a 
> Kuwait-based Pakistani terrorist, and, lest we
> forget, the September 
> 11th hijackers were:
> 
> 1) Mohammed Atta al-Sayed, an Egyptian national who
> carried a Saudi 
> Arabian passport.
> 
> 2) Khalid al-Mihdhar of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 3) Majed Moqed of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 4) Nawaf al-Hazmi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 5) Salem al-Hazmi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 6) Hani Hanjour of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 7) Satam al-Suqami of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 8) Waleed al-Shehri of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 9) Wail al-Shehri of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 10) Abdulaziz al-Omari of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 11) Ahmed al-Ghamdi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 12) Hamza al-Ghamdi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 13) Saeed al-Ghamdi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 14) Ahmed Ibrahim al-Haznawi of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 15) Ahmed al-Nami of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 16) Mohand al-Shehri of Saudi Arabia
> 
> 17) Ziad Samir Jarrah of Lebanon
> 
> 18) Marwan al-Shehhi of the United Arab Emirates
> 
> 19) Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan al-Qadi Banihammad of
> Yemen (though he 
> possessed a Saudi passport)
> 
> While it’s true that many trained in Osama bin
> Laden’s terrorist camps 
> in Afghanistan, and that bin Laden was in that
> country at the 
> invitation of the Taliban, none (NONE) of the
> September 11th hijackers 
> were Afghanis, and the Taliban neither coordinated
> nor funded the 
> attacks.  That was the work of bin Laden's Al Qaeda
> and of Khalid 
> Sheikh Mohammed.
> 
> Donovan: I have long since given up the hope that
> you will look before 
> you leap or research before you write.  So, the next
> time you feel 
> compelled to speak, would you do us all a favor and
> strike a match?  
> You are always – always – talking out of your
> backside.
> 
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> www.joanopyr.com
> 
> >
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