[Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho

[Phil Nisbet]

Ellen

Interestingly the prion based disease that infects deer and elk populations 
is a completely different disease than either Mad Cow or the three more 
common human prion diseases.  There are instances where it has indeed hit 
human populations in Wyoming and Montana.  Thing is that its still a pretty 
minor situation, since you are more likely to be blugeoned to death with a 
hammer than ever get a prion disease.

Phil Nisbet


>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>To: pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:21:30 -0700
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>There have been a number af articles on this subject over the past few 
>months. . . usually they're buried in the back pages. . . not headline 
>news.  I found it interesting that brain-wasting disease is not limited to 
>just cows but just about every warm-blooded critter in our food chain. In 
>the case of the St.Maries woman, it was suggested that her case might be 
>due to venison.  The article I read said that hunters have known for years 
>that there is a danger of getting ill and dying.  That surprised me because 
>I never heard it mentioned among friends who hunt.  They never said a thing 
>when they wanted to share their pot roast!
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>From:  "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To:  vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:  [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
>Date:  Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:24:56 -0700
> >http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cjd/detail_cjd.htm
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> >Not to put to fine a point on it Dick, BSE is not TSE.  You can get
> >Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease from a whole lot of things, including
> >simply being unlucky enough to get it genetically, but its not Mad
> >Cow derived.  All of the suspected cases in Idaho you refer to are
> >for TSE, in people in later life and not the younger folks who are
> >suspected of getting BSE.
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> >It looks like your AP article is alarmist in not pointing out that
> >the TSE related Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is
>completely unrelated to
> >Prion's found in Mad Cow's Disease.  The people involved are more
> >likely to have recieved human growth hormones, a cornea transplant,
> >or some other procedure which made them vulnerable to the kinds of
> >prion degenerative action which lead to their deaths.  You can even
> >note that two of those actually checked were determined not to have
> >TSE at all, but more likely suffered from some other form of
> >dementia, meaning that you only have three confirmed actual cases,
> >four possible cases and two which were not cases at all in your list
> >of nine.  So of the three, which had a a possible link to genetic
> >CJD or the other two possible forms?
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> >So perhaps, since the CDC does not think that its related to
> >anything is reason to assume that reality is
>that its only three
> >cases and that those three cases are typical of mormative TSE
> >related CJD?  That sems most likely and therefore not cause to go on
> >an anti-Beef campaign.
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> >Phil Nisbet
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