[Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho

[Carl Westberg]

But what about the chance of being bludgeoned to death with a hammer by a 
very mad cow?                                                                
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                             Carl Westberg 
Jr.


>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: gussie443 at hotmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:54:16 -0700
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>Ellen
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>Interestingly the prion based disease that infects deer and elk populations 
>is a completely different disease than either Mad Cow or the three more 
>common human prion diseases.  There are instances where it has indeed hit 
>human populations in Wyoming and Montana.  Thing is that its still a pretty 
>minor situation, since you are more likely to be blugeoned to death with a 
>hammer than ever get a prion disease.
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>Phil Nisbet
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>>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>>To: pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
>>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:21:30 -0700
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>>There have been a number af articles on this subject over the past few 
>>months. . . usually they're buried in the back pages. . . not headline 
>>news.  I found it interesting that brain-wasting disease is not limited to 
>>just cows but just about every warm-blooded critter in our food chain. In 
>>the case of the St.Maries woman, it was suggested that her case might be 
>>due to venison.  The article I read said that hunters have known for years 
>>that there is a danger of getting ill and dying.  That surprised me 
>>because I never heard it mentioned among friends who hunt.  They never 
>>said a thing when they wanted to share their pot roast!
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>>Ellen
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>>From:  "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>>To:  vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject:  [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
>>Date:  Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:24:56 -0700
>> >http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cjd/detail_cjd.htm
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>> >Not to put to fine a point on it Dick, BSE is not TSE.  You can get
>> >Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease from a whole lot of things, including
>> >simply being unlucky enough to get it genetically, but its not Mad
>> >Cow derived.  All of the suspected cases in Idaho you refer to are
>> >for TSE, in people in later life and not the younger folks who are
>> >suspected of getting BSE.
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>> >It looks like your AP article is alarmist in not pointing out that
>> >the TSE related Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is
>>completely unrelated to
>> >Prion's found in Mad Cow's Disease.  The people involved are more
>> >likely to have recieved human growth hormones, a cornea transplant,
>> >or some other procedure which made them vulnerable to the kinds of
>> >prion degenerative action which lead to their deaths.  You can even
>> >note that two of those actually checked were determined not to have
>> >TSE at all, but more likely suffered from some other form of
>> >dementia, meaning that you only have three confirmed actual cases,
>> >four possible cases and two which were not cases at all in your list
>> >of nine.  So of the three, which had a a possible link to genetic
>> >CJD or the other two possible forms?
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>> >So perhaps, since the CDC does not think that its related to
>> >anything is reason to assume that reality is
>>that its only three
>> >cases and that those three cases are typical of mormative TSE
>> >related CJD?  That sems most likely and therefore not cause to go on
>> >an anti-Beef campaign.
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>> >Phil Nisbet
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