[Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho

[Art Deco]

Ellen, et al,

Eaters of venison and especially wild fowl who graze/eat in areas with certain plants and with higher than normal thallium content of the soil risk losing hair and irreversible shrinkage of the gonads.  I know of one rather amusing case of this -- amusing because the victims were habitual and egregious poachers.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ellen Roskovich 
  To: pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:21 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho


        There have been a number af articles on this subject over the past few months. . . usually they're buried in the back pages. . . not headline news.  I found it interesting that brain-wasting disease is not limited to just cows but just about every warm-blooded critter in our food chain. In the case of the St.Maries woman, it was suggested that her case might be due to venison.  The article I read said that hunters have known for years that there is a danger of getting ill and dying.  That surprised me because I never heard it mentioned among friends who hunt.  They never said a thing when they wanted to share their pot roast!

        Ellen
       
       






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      From:  "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
      To:  vision2020 at moscow.com
      Subject:  [Vision2020] 9 Cases of Brain-Wasting Disease in Idaho
      Date:  Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:24:56 -0700
      >http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cjd/detail_cjd.htm
      >
      >Not to put to fine a point on it Dick, BSE is not TSE.  You can get 
      >Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease from a whole lot of things, including 
      >simply being unlucky enough to get it genetically, but its not Mad 
      >Cow derived.  All of the suspected cases in Idaho you refer to are 
      >for TSE, in people in later life and not the younger folks who are 
      >suspected of getting BSE.
      >
      >It looks like your AP article is alarmist in not pointing out that 
      >the TSE related Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is completely unrelated to 
      >Prion's found in Mad Cow's Disease.  The people involved are more 
      >likely to have recieved human growth hormones, a cornea transplant, 
      >or some other procedure which made them vulnerable to the kinds of 
      >prion degenerative action which lead to their deaths.  You can even 
      >note that two of those actually checked were determined not to have 
      >TSE at all, but more likely suffered from some other form of 
      >dementia, meaning that you only have three confirmed actual cases, 
      >four possible cases and two which were not cases at all in your list 
      >of nine.  So of the three, which had a a possible link to genetic 
      >CJD or the other two possible forms?
      >
      >So perhaps, since the CDC does not think that its related to 
      >anything is reason to assume that reality is that its only three 
      >cases and that those three cases are typical of mormative TSE 
      >related CJD?  That sems most likely and therefore not cause to go on 
      >an anti-Beef campaign.
      >
      >Phil Nisbet
      >
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