[Vision2020] BUY AMERICAN BUY WAL-MART

Wed Nov 23 07:39:04 PST 2005

    We  can always look forward to your comments being entertaining Hansin.

  "Yes.  I am interested in improving foreign economies." 

  You are, but you are going to do the opposite actions that you know would  create that outcome? Humm, interesting. 

  "But, my first priorities are at home." 

  When we die, do you think the souls are divided up according to nationality  Hansin? Do you think the belly of a fat kid longing for a third helping of ice  cream is equal in need to the empty belly of a child in China or Bangladesh? Do  you think the nationality, race, and/or place of birth of the fat belly should  give it special privilege to third and fourth helpings before a starving child  is given anything? It appears that is your position Hansin. I hope you can  justify to your God your rationalizing of why the fat kid gets a fourth helping  before the starving gets one helping because the fat kid was inside some  imaginary borders.

  Nor could have it possibly have occurred to you that if just half the world's  population consumed as much resources as half the population of the people in  the United States  the Earth's ecological system would collapse inside of 100 years, Hansin. 

  "Every product manufactured overseas and sold here in the Nifty Fifty  (USA) amounts to lost revenue here."

  Wrong! Guess again. Wealth is not "finite" Hansin. Wealth is  generated through a process called "work". You obviously do not  understand that both a buyer and a seller can benefit from a financial transaction.  In fact, most the time it does and it favors the buyer. You are also clearly  unaware of terms like, “global economy”, "global investment  fund" and “foreign investment”. Billions of US dollars are in foreign  investments. Foreign nations cannot improve without also simultaneously  improving the US  market, and the reverse is also true. If the world economy declines, so does the  US.  

    "Every time we purchase a product manufactured here, it benefits  that manufacturer and its employees, and keep that manufacturer in business  that much longer,"

  You got it bass ackwards Hansin. We do not buy products to benefit the seller,  we buy it to benefit the buyer, why else buy it?  DUH! 100 workers work  for 1000000 customers, not the other way around.  I do not buy gas to help  out Exxon and the Saudi families, I buy gas cuz I need it make my car move. I  do not buy a jacket to help out employees at Columbia, I buy a jacket cuz I am cold. We  are better off buying the product that we need and spending the savings on  training the workers to school to learn a trade that is competitive in the  world market. Using your logic, we should subsidize rotary phone manufactures  to keep jobs instead investing in technology to make the microchips that go in  future cell phones. Protectionism is bad form and policy and ONLY protects bad  businesses and business practices, good ones do not need protection. Not to  mention it makes other nations do the same to us. Two thirds of all business  growth is in the foreign market. Tariffs blo!
 ck 2/3 of
 our growth to protect  1/3, that is a dumb idea, Herbert Hoover  tried tariffs to soften the depression in 1930, it made it worse. Grover Cleveland tried it the  1890s and set off a recession. It was also tried in the1840s and set off a  recession that helped defeat Martin Van Buren. We tried it Hansin, it did not  work.

   "which means food on the dinner tables of American families."

  Well Hansin, I think from the looks of you, me and the rest of this overweight glutton  nation, we could stand to skip a few meals. Dontcha think?

  Take Care,

  Donovan J Arnold

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:              v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}              st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Arnold stated:

    “If you are interested in keeping  working conditions poor and inhuman in China,  Honduras, Mexico, and Bangladesh, you should buy as many  American products as possible.  If foreigners do not get our money, they cannot  improve working conditions for the poor in those countries.”

    Arnold.  Arnold.   Arnold.  

    Yes.  I am interested in improving foreign  economies.  It would be great if Mexico paid its labor force a  living wage.  But, my first priorities are at home.  Every product manufactured  overseas and sold here in the Nifty Fifty (USA) amounts to lost revenue here.   Every time we purchase a product manufactured here, it benefits that manufacturer  and its employees, and keep that manufacturer in business that much longer,  which means food on the dinner tables of American families.

    However, I do want to thank you for the  new signature.  I think I will call it “Arnold on Global Economies.”  Whatchat  think?  Catchy, huh?

    Take care, Moscow.

    Tom Hansen
    Moscow, Idaho

         “Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the  intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but  rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body  thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a  ride!'”

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    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com  [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On  Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005  10:54 PM
  To: TIM RIGSBY;  vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject: [Vision2020] BUY AMERICAN  BUY WAL-MART

            I went to Wal-Mart today and bought a bunch of stuff. Items like food,  cleaning supplies, and even pharmaceuticals. All of them, except the rice grown  in Canada,  was made in the United    States.

  If you are interested in keeping working conditions poor and inhuman in China,  Honduras,  Mexico,  and Bangladesh,  you should buy as many American products as possible. If foreigners do not get  our money, they cannot improve working conditions for the poor in those  countries. Keeping profit margins at minimal levels insures foreign governments  cannot force businesses in their country to invest in better conditions for the  workers. This of course will shut down all those slave labor factories where  the workers will then be free to get better higher paying jobs with better  working conditions waiting for them elsewhere. Even if it does not shut them down,   the US  needs the money more anyway. 

        Moscow  residents do have three solid reasons to oppose a Super Wal-Mart center coming  into town:

        1)      The  Super Wal-Mart will have a grocery store. Those groceries will be made by the  slave labor of US farmers.

        2)      Will  have an oil, lube, and fill-up station. This will drive the price of car  service an! d gas down. But at what cost? The cost of bigger profits for oil  companies? That is not a cost I am willing to accept.

        3)      It  makes us look like we are real liberals that care about the community.

  Joan Opyr also brought up a great  point. Us poor people should not buy a $20 pair of jeans if that is all we can  afford. We should instead buy a $80 pair of designer jeans that will last five  times as long, which is actually cheaper in the long run, especially if we have  kids that grow out them in six months.  Also, instead of buying a used  Hyundai for $5,000 they should buy a new Chevy Tahoe for $25,000 because it  will last six times as long. And us poor stupid ! mobile home and apartment  dwellers, we should buy a 5 bedroom house for $300,000 because it will last way  longer and increase in value as time goes on, and we must not forget the indoor  pool and sauna. 

  On my way home driving my Ford, I got stuck behind a SUV with an environmental  sticker on the back bumper as I drove past houses of environmentalists with  every light on in their two or three person households of  2,500+ sq  ft built on land with huge water hungry yards originally acquired cheaply through  the slaughter and suppression of millions of native peoples. 

  So for those of you that hate Wal-Mart for not doing something about the  Chinese government not enforcing Chinese labor laws in China, as you sip on  your double caramel mocha latte with whipped cream and sprinkles for $6 out of  a cup made in China, rather than donating the money to the factories in  Bangladesh for improved working conditions, made with beans grown by the slave  l! abor of millions of Latin Americans, this gives you something to think  about. If you want to look at preach to someone profiteering off the labor,  health and well being of millions of others you can pick up a full length  mirror for $9.99 at Wal-Mart.  

  Take Care,

  Donovan J Arnold

  TIM RIGSBY  <tim.rigsby at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Buying products made in the USA is a great way to keep the  money in our 
  country. But buying products made in Idaho  is an even better way to support 
  our local economies. I do as much Idaho  shopping as I can but also try and 
  buy as much from Made in USA  companies as well. Carhart is a great example 
  of an excellent product that is made in the US. New Balance shoes also are, 
  sometimes, made in the US.  But with New Balance, you need to be aware of 
  the ones made in Taiwan,  they are cheaper and not as good.

  If anyone is ever in Boise  and need to buy some American made clothing, go 
  visit Charlie at Workman Outfitters on Vista Ave. Charlie is probably the 
  greatest American I have ever met.

  Tim
  Buy Union, Support America!

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