[Vision2020] RE: Dale Courtney

Fri May 27 13:33:38 PDT 2005

Steve,

On the Internet, you have the ability to link to images of others without
copying that image to your site. That image physically lies on the original
server and owner. There is no duplication of the images. 

Second, just because a picture is taken by a photographer doesn't make it
copyrighted. Copyright law requires that the notice be given. No copyright
notice, not copyrighted. 

Finally, as Wayne Fox is fond of telling everyone, fair use makes taking
extracts and commenting on them "fair". 

I would encourage you to surf the blogsphere and see exactly what I'm
talking about. 

Best,
Dale

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From: Steven Simmons [mailto:lowman at lowbatteries.com] 
Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 13:15
To: Dale Courtney; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: Dale Courtney

The general idea is that you can't publish works unless YOU have a
copyright, and you don't have it unless the creator of that work gives you
express permission.

This might be wishy-washy for e-mails, but photographs are very definitely
copyrighted the minute they are created, so any photo you look at is
copyrighted. It is only in the "public domain" if its creator was the
government, then by definition it belongs to all of us, as we are the
government.

"If anyone finds one, please let me know and I'll pull it immediately."

So, I would say that any image on your site that you did not create or
recieve permission from the creator, please take them down. Also, including
an image from someone else's server in your webpage does not mean you are
not violating their copyright. You are still publishing their work, and
beyond that you are stealing their bandwidth by 'hotlinking'. As a
webmaster, I would be doubly angry about that.

Anyone publishing borrowed content should know about copyright law. Here is
a great site you should read up on: www.whatiscopyright.org

Glad I could be of assistance in helping you be fair and honest and correct
your mistakes, as you seem to be a man very concerned with the truth.

Kindly,

Steven Simmons

Dale Courtney wrote: 

Scott,

Thanks for the kind words. I freely admit to being "right" -- but not a

neo-conservative; and certainly not a fascist or a socialist (wrapping back

around the back-side to the Left). 

And I do try to be fair and honest; correct my mistakes; and give reference

to all the sources I cite. I do not find it "rude" or "unchristian" not to

back down from things that are right -- even when it pokes a hole in

someone's pet theories. 

FWIW, the pictures I link to (yes, the vast majority are external links to

Internet pictures -- check it out) are not copyrighted. I'm very careful to

not pull any picture with a copyright on it. 

If anyone finds one, please let me know and I'll pull it immediately. 

Best,

Dale

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]

On Behalf Of Scott Dredge

Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 11:46

To: vision2020 at moscow.com

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: Dale Courtney

My view is completely different from just about everyone who has posted on

this subject.  I think Dale Courtney is actually a quite pleasant and

reasonable debater.  And yes, his blog is overly slanted to the far right.

It's his blog.  I don't agree with many of his opinions, but he clearly (to

me) does not come across rude.  I'm sure you can cite some anecdotal

evidence (v2020 and blog posts) that contradict my statement, but I'm also

sure you can find some pretty vitriolic posts from me if you scanned the

archives.

I like Dale.  I love Joan.  I'm not fond of Doug Wilson.

-Scott

--- eve wasframed  <mailto:w_w_s_d_ at hotmail.com> <w_w_s_d_ at hotmail.com>
wrote:

It seems to me too much time and mental energy is wasted on Mr. 

Courtney.

Surely we have better things to do.  Has anyone looked outside yet?  

It's beautiful out there!  Take a break and get a cup of coffee at One 

World Cafe.  Discuss your views amongst the crowd that knows and loves 

you well - and likes you anyway :) Dale Courtney has his viewpoints 

and opinions, just like the rest of us.  I do not think he is the best 

spokesman for his church and quite honestly, probably contributes to 

their negative publicity.

Something to keep in mind

when discussing NSA in general.

Any other NSA members out there have a viewpoint you'd like to share?  

Don't let Dale be your voice, you are good Christians I'm sure, speak 

up for yourself if you feel differently.

Until then, let's enjoy the sunshine and keep our hearts light.

Bless you all,

EWF

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