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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Steve,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>On the Internet, you have the ability to link to images of
others without copying that image to your site. That image physically lies on
the original server and owner. There is no duplication of the images.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Second, just because a picture is taken by a photographer
doesn't make it copyrighted. Copyright law <U>requires</U> that the notice be
given. No copyright notice, not copyrighted. </FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Finally, as Wayne Fox is fond of telling everyone, fair use makes taking
extracts and commenting on them "fair". </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left></SPAN><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would encourage you to surf the blogsphere and see
exactly what I'm talking about. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=047152720-27052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dale</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Steven Simmons
[mailto:lowman@lowbatteries.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 27 May 2005
13:15<BR><B>To:</B> Dale Courtney; vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] RE: Dale Courtney<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>The general idea is that you can't publish works unless YOU have a
copyright, and you don't have it unless the creator of that work gives you
express permission.<BR><BR>This might be wishy-washy for e-mails, but
photographs are very definitely copyrighted the minute they are created, so any
photo you look at is copyrighted. It is only in the "public domain" if its
creator was the government, then by definition it belongs to all of us, as we
are the government.<BR><BR>"If anyone finds one, please let me know and I'll
pull it immediately."<BR><BR>So, I would say that any image on your site that
you did not create or recieve permission from the creator, please take them
down. Also, including an image from someone else's server in your webpage does
not mean you are not violating their copyright. You are still publishing their
work, and beyond that you are stealing their bandwidth by 'hotlinking'. As a
webmaster, I would be doubly angry about that.<BR><BR>Anyone publishing borrowed
content should know about copyright law. Here is a great site you should read up
on: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.whatiscopyright.org">www.whatiscopyright.org</A><BR><BR>Glad I
could be of assistance in helping you be fair and honest and correct your
mistakes, as you seem to be a man very concerned with the
truth.<BR><BR>Kindly,<BR><BR>Steven Simmons<BR><BR><BR><BR>Dale Courtney wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=midauto-000024795836@wavecable.net type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Scott,
Thanks for the kind words. I freely admit to being "right" -- but not a
neo-conservative; and certainly not a fascist or a socialist (wrapping back
around the back-side to the Left).
And I do try to be fair and honest; correct my mistakes; and give reference
to all the sources I cite. I do not find it "rude" or "unchristian" not to
back down from things that are right -- even when it pokes a hole in
someone's pet theories.
FWIW, the pictures I link to (yes, the vast majority are external links to
Internet pictures -- check it out) are not copyrighted. I'm very careful to
not pull any picture with a copyright on it.
If anyone finds one, please let me know and I'll pull it immediately.
Best,
Dale
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From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]
On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 11:46
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: Dale Courtney
My view is completely different from just about everyone who has posted on
this subject. I think Dale Courtney is actually a quite pleasant and
reasonable debater. And yes, his blog is overly slanted to the far right.
It's his blog. I don't agree with many of his opinions, but he clearly (to
me) does not come across rude. I'm sure you can cite some anecdotal
evidence (v2020 and blog posts) that contradict my statement, but I'm also
sure you can find some pretty vitriolic posts from me if you scanned the
archives.
I like Dale. I love Joan. I'm not fond of Doug Wilson.
-Scott
--- eve wasframed <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:w_w_s_d_@hotmail.com"><w_w_s_d_@hotmail.com></A> wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">It seems to me too much time and mental energy is wasted on Mr.
Courtney.
Surely we have better things to do. Has anyone looked outside yet?
It's beautiful out there! Take a break and get a cup of coffee at One
World Cafe. Discuss your views amongst the crowd that knows and loves
you well - and likes you anyway :) Dale Courtney has his viewpoints
and opinions, just like the rest of us. I do not think he is the best
spokesman for his church and quite honestly, probably contributes to
their negative publicity.
Something to keep in mind
when discussing NSA in general.
Any other NSA members out there have a viewpoint you'd like to share?
Don't let Dale be your voice, you are good Christians I'm sure, speak
up for yourself if you feel differently.
Until then, let's enjoy the sunshine and keep our hearts light.
Bless you all,
EWF
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