[Vision2020] The truth about the Am Psy Association

Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
Thu May 26 02:10:05 PDT 2005


It's amazing how far this topic is off from the
original posting.  Pat, you're right that Dr. Laura
chastised the APA and that it was a public relations
nightmare for them.  You're wrong - as was Dr. Laura -
about the APA's postion on pedophilia.  And Donovan is
just out of control.

So - back to the original post - the APA made a
recommendation that homosexual marriage should be
legal.  Pat wrote, in effect, that legalizing
homosexual marriage is a slippery slope of immorality
that would lead to the legalization of man/boy
relationships.  Why?  Opposite sex marriage is legal
and yet that hasn't led to acceptance of relationships
between man / underage girl and woman / underage boy. 
Pat - can you explain this?  I'm not dismissing you. 
You've written that the legalization of homosexual
marriage will lead to acceptance of pedophilia.  I'd
like to understand your premise that legalizing a
relationship between consenting adults would somehow
lead to acceptance of child abuse.  How does one
scenarios - where there is no victim - lead to
acceptance of another scenario where this is a victim?

-Scott

--- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Pat,
> 
> Please understand Rose, Saundra, Joan, Wayne,
> Hansen,
> Mylinda, and Keely are always right. Facts matter
> not.
> If they decide you are wrong, you are wrong. Only
> argue with them unless you realize this. And yes,
> you
> are dismissed by them if you cannot comprehend their
> supremacy over all matters of science, morality, and
> law. 
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> --- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> > So, I am dismissed?? I am not wrong! I only used
> the
> > Narth site because it quotes the paper they put
> out
> > about children enjoying being molested. You
> haven't
> > looked into it. You dismiss Dr Laura because you
> > don't agree with her on gay issues. But, even Dr
> > Laura is right part of the time. No, even I don't
> > agree with everything she says...what I really
> can't
> > believe is the people who keep calling her. It
> isn't
> > faked tho because they would never get away with
> it,
> > but surely the people must have someone else they
> > can talk to and not call her. 
> > You don't have to read my posts if you don't want
> to
> > but you cannot dismiss me from this site!
> > PK
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: DonaldH675 at aol.com 
> >   To: pkraut at moscow.com 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:26 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The truth about the Am
> > Psy Association
> > 
> > 
> >   Pat,
> >   You were just plain wrong about your
> understanding
> > of the article, the difference between the two
> > organizations etc.  The gracious (and wise) thing
> to
> > do is either drop it or acknowledge your error.  
> >   Rose Huskey
> > 
> >   "One cannot level one's moral lance at every
> evil
> > in the universe. There are just too many of them.
> > But you can do something, and the difference
> between
> > doing something and doing nothing is everything."
> > Daniel Berrigan
> > 
> > >
>
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