[Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
David M. Budge
dave at davebudge.com
Tue May 24 09:21:28 PDT 2005
Here's a fair question: Why does the government have a right to
restrict a property owner from allowing his/her guests to engage in a
legal activity on private property?
My solution is here: http://davebudge.com/?p=316
And I mean it.
db
Carl Westberg wrote:
> I saw a great TV PSA the other night. It showed a crowded restaurant
> with most of the customers wearing oxygen masks as they were dining.
> The narrator said something like: "Only 20 percent of Americans
> smoke. Why should the other 80 percent have to breathe their smoke?"
> I thought that was a fair
> question.
>
>
> Carl
> Westberg Jr.
>
>> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:01:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> Ms. C (Sorry I cannot digress to name calling as you
>> have),
>>
>> First, I think you misunderstand. It is NOT part of
>> the job description of a US soldier to get shot or
>> die. That is the job of the opposing forces.
>>
>> Second, being around people smoking IS part of the job
>> description of a bartender. They do things like, sell
>> cigarettes, light cigarettes, give matches to people
>> with cigarettes, clean and empty ashtrays, and
>> extinguish cigarettes. So, yes, being around a
>> cigarette is the part of the job description. Just
>> like being around poopy diapers is a requirement for
>> working with infants and babies. You are not required
>> to smell them, but good luck avoiding them.
>>
>> If you think that smoking around the bartender should
>> be reason to ban cigarettes because of OSHA, why stop
>> there? Why allow music? Music loud enough to dance to
>> causes damage to the ear drum of anyone in the area
>> for more than a few hours. Should moderate dancing
>> music be banned too for a safe and healthy workplace
>> for the bartender and DJ?
>>
>> You have abandoned common sense with your "make no
>> assumptions" philosophy.
>>
>> And just out of curiosity, what are the OSHA
>> regulations regarding working safely with alligators?
>>
>>
>> Take Care,
>>
>> Donovan J Arnold
>>
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>>
>> --- Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>> Donald Arnovan wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry I called you Ms. Carscallen. No insult was
>> intended.
>>
>> And why would that be insulting??
>>
>> It's not an insult, but an example of Mr. Arnovan
>> jumping to every conclusion possible.
>>
>> I am a bit confused however, as to why you think
>> people trying to kill you is not considered an unsafe
>> and unhealthy environment. Perhaps we just have a
>> different interpretation of safe and healthy.
>>
>>
>> Because THAT IS THE JOB.
>>
>> If I got a job as an alligator tamer, I would not
>> expect that to be safe. But if my boss at the
>> alligator farm was painting with lead paint....then we
>> have a unsafe and unhealthy workplace.
>>
>> The OSHA portion of the labor law poster here in my
>> office says "Occupational Safety and Health Act of
>> 1970: You Have the Right to a Safe and Healthful
>> Workplace" "THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ACT OF
>> 1970 ASSURES SAFE AND HEALTHFUL WORKING CONDITIONS FOR
>> WORKING MEN AND WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE NATION. THE
>> OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, IN THE
>> U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, HAS THE PRIMARY
>> RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADMINISTERING THE OSH ACT."
>>
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>> *~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>> seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>,
>> vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> Ms. Crumley,
>>
>> I am sorry I called you Ms. Carscallen. No insult was
>> intended.
>>
>> I am a bit confused however, as to why you think
>> people trying to kill you is not considered an unsafe
>> and unhealthy environment. Perhaps we just have a
>> different interpretation of safe and healthy.
>>
>>
>> Take Care,
>>
>> Donovan J Arnold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>>
>> First off, my name is Julie Crumley. Thanks. Nice
>> example of jumping to a conclusion.
>>
>> And yes, it would be the goverment that "sent over
>> 200,000 American men and women to a
>> desert full of people trying to kill them?" You could
>> sure come over to my house and my better half can tell
>> you all about "people trying to kill them." That is
>> his job, that is what they are trained to do, and paid
>> to do...but he'll tell you his ship is smoke free!!!
>> Safe and healthy workplace!
>>
>> JC
>>
>> JULIE CRUMLEY, thanks.
>>
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>>
>> *~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>> seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>,
>> vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> Julie Carscallen wrote,
>>
>> "I believe everyone has the right to a safe and
>> healthy workplace. Actually, so does the government."
>>
>> Julie, would this happen to be the SAME government
>> that sent over 200,000 American men and women to a
>> desert full of people trying to kill them?
>>
>>
>> Take Care,
>>
>> Donovan J Arnold
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Donovan says:
>>
>> "However, no, I do not think that employees have the
>> right to "smoke-free" work places if that is part of
>> the job and the employer cannot pay them if they do
>> not have customers. Do doctors have the right to be in
>> AIDS free work spaces when doing surgery? Do Police
>> have the right to be in a criminal free environment?
>> Do Firemen have the right to be in fire free areas? Do
>> teachers have the right not to be around children? Do
>> window cleaners have the right to keep both feet on
>> the ground? No, that is their job. They are all
>> environmental hazards with the job they choose. You do
>> not have the right to dictate the conditions of your
>> job."
>>
>> Holy gegeez.it's not a cigarette smoking factory, it's
>> a frfrickinbar.
>>
>> I believe everyone has the right to a safe and healthy
>> workplace. Actually, so does the government. They
>> happen to say so on the labor law poster right here
>> next to my desk.
>>
>> JCJC
>>
>> *~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>> seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
>>
>>
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