[Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace

Tue May 24 15:09:17 PDT 2005

I saw a great TV PSA the other night.  It showed a crowded restaurant with 
most of the customers wearing oxygen masks as they were dining.  The 
narrator said something like: "Only 20 percent of Americans smoke.  Why 
should the other 80 percent have to breathe their smoke?"  I thought that 
was a fair question.                                                         

                                                              Carl Westberg 
Jr.

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:01:19 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ms. C (Sorry I cannot digress to name calling as you
>have),
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>First, I think you misunderstand. It is NOT part of
>the job description of a US soldier to get shot or
>die. That is the job of the opposing forces.
>
>Second, being around people smoking IS part of the job
>description of a bartender. They do things like, sell
>cigarettes, light cigarettes, give matches to people
>with cigarettes, clean and empty ashtrays, and
>extinguish cigarettes. So, yes, being around a
>cigarette is the part of the job description. Just
>like being around poopy diapers is a requirement for
>working with infants and babies. You are not required
>to smell them, but good luck avoiding them.
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>If you think that smoking around the bartender should
>be reason to ban cigarettes because of OSHA, why stop
>there? Why allow music? Music loud enough to dance to
>causes damage to the ear drum of anyone in the area
>for more than a few hours. Should moderate dancing
>music be banned too for a safe and healthy workplace
>for the bartender and DJ?
>
>You have abandoned common sense with your "make no
>assumptions" philosophy.
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>And just out of curiosity, what are the OSHA
>regulations regarding working safely with alligators?
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>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
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>--- Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Donald Arnovan wrote:
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>I am sorry I called you Ms. Carscallen. No insult was
>intended.
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>And why would that be insulting??
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>It's not an insult, but an example of Mr. Arnovan
>jumping to every conclusion possible.
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>I am a bit confused however, as to why you think
>people trying to kill you is not considered an unsafe
>and unhealthy environment. Perhaps we just have a
>different interpretation of safe and healthy.
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>Because THAT IS THE JOB.
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>If I got a job as an alligator tamer, I would not
>expect that to be safe. But if my boss at the
>alligator farm was painting with lead paint....then we
>have a unsafe and unhealthy workplace.
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>The OSHA portion of the labor law poster here in my
>office says "Occupational Safety and Health Act of
>1970: You Have the Right to a Safe and Healthful
>Workplace" "THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ACT OF
>1970 ASSURES SAFE AND HEALTHFUL WORKING CONDITIONS FOR
>WORKING MEN AND WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE NATION.  THE
>OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, IN THE
>U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, HAS THE PRIMARY
>RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADMINISTERING THE OSH ACT."
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>*~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
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>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>,
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
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>Ms. Crumley,
>
>I am sorry I called you Ms. Carscallen. No insult was
>intended.
>
>I am a bit confused however, as to why you think
>people trying to kill you is not considered an unsafe
>and unhealthy environment. Perhaps we just have a
>different interpretation of safe and healthy.
>
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
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>--- Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>First off, my name is Julie Crumley. Thanks. Nice
>example of jumping to a conclusion.
>
>And yes, it would be the goverment that "sent over
>200,000 American men and women to a
>desert full of people trying to kill them?" You could
>sure come over to my house and my better half can tell
>you all about "people trying to kill them." That is
>his job, that is what they are trained to do, and paid
>to do...but he'll tell you his ship is smoke free!!!
>Safe and healthy workplace!
>
>JC
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>JULIE CRUMLEY, thanks.
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>*~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
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>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Julie C <joodge at hotmail.com>,
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safe and Healthy Workplace
>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Julie Carscallen wrote,
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>"I believe everyone has the right to a safe and
>healthy workplace. Actually, so does the government."
>
>Julie, would this happen to be the SAME government
>that sent over 200,000 American men and women to a
>desert full of people trying to kill them?
>
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>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
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>Donovan says:
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>"However, no, I do not think that employees have the
>right to "smoke-free" work places if that is part of
>the job and the employer cannot pay them if they do
>not have customers. Do doctors have the right to be in
>AIDS free work spaces when doing surgery? Do Police
>have the right to be in a criminal free environment?
>Do Firemen have the right to be in fire free areas? Do
>teachers have the right not to be around children? Do
>window cleaners have the right to keep both feet on
>the ground? No, that is their job. They are all
>environmental hazards with the job they choose. You do
>not have the right to dictate the conditions of your
>job."
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>Holy gegeez.it's not a cigarette smoking factory, it's
>a frfrickinbar.
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>I believe everyone has the right to a safe and healthy
>workplace. Actually, so does the government. They
>happen to say so on the labor law poster right here
>next to my desk.
>
>JCJC
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>*~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
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