[Vision2020] Response to Kit

[Donovan Arnold]

Ms. Kraine,

I must have missed the meeting you were talking about.
The meeting I attended did not talk about if NSA was
an “Educational Institution” because Joe Plaskon and
Mike Curley did not discuss it. The meeting discussed
if Joe Plaskon made the correct decision by allowing
an “Educational Institution” in a CZ that does not
allow “Educational Institutions.”  The facts regarding
whether NSA is an Educational Institution as defined
by law was not argued. 

You argue, “the code does NOT state that the
institution must be accredited. According to the code,
criteria is whether it is giving 
instructions as approved by the SBOE or by a
“recognized accrediting 
agency.””

Ms. Kraine, that is what accreditation is, approval by
the State Board of Education. The words “or by a
recognized accrediting agency” are agencies listed on
the SBOE website. NSA’s higher education curriculum is
not approved by the SBOE, it is not accredited. If NSA
is approved by the SBOE, by all means please supply us
with that information. It would be news to me and I am
sure NSA as well.   

The term “Educational Institution” was coined for the
purposes of defining and preventing the UI from taking
over downtown. It was not written to prevent small
groups of people from opening a religious college
downtown.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold







--- Kit Craine <kcraine at moscow.com> wrote:

> Like Mr. Arnold, I was at the May 12th hearing
> concerning NSA’s use of 
> a building in the Central Business District. The
> question at that 
> hearing was whether the Zoning Administrators
> decision that NSA’s use 
> of the property could be considered a use
> “similar” to a commercial 
> school and therefore allowable in the CBD was
> correct. The ZBOA decided 
> it wasn’t.
> 
> There was NO question that NSA fits the zoning
> code’s definition of an 
> EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION.
> 
> This is not simply Mr. Curley’s claim.
> 
> The Zoning Administrator has stated that IN WRITING
> when NSA was 
> located in a residential zone; his letter of January
> 22, 2005 
> (available at www.zonemoscow.com) discusses the
> history of both 
> commercial schools and educational institutions as
> permitted uses in 
> the CBD; it states “I acknowledge that the current
> use of New St. 
> Andrews College is not explicitly listed as a
> permissible use . . .”.
> 
> During the hearing, when asked by the Zoning Board
> of Adjustment, 
> whether NSA fit fits the zoning code’s definition
> of an EDUCATIONAL 
> INSTITUTION, the answer was YES.
> 
> Despite this evidence offered at a hearing when  Mr.
> Arnold was 
> present, he claims that NSA fits the definition
> Trade/commercial school 
> rather than an Educational Institution. The
> adjectives from the entire 
> definitions dispute that.
> 
> 47. Institution, Educational. A college or
> university supported by 
> public or private funds, tuitions, contributions or
> endowments, giving 
> advanced academic instructions as approved by the
> State Board of 
> Education or by a recognized accrediting agency,
> excluding pre-school, 
> elementary and junior or senior high schools, and
> trade and commercial 
> schools; including fraternity and sorority houses.
> 
> 80. School, Commercial. A program whereby
> instruction is given to 
> pupils in arts, crafts or trades and operated as a
> commercial 
> enterprise.
> 
> NSA offers A.A. and B.A. degrees in liberal arts and
> culture. These are 
> academic studies, not arts, crafts, or trades.
> 
> Furthermore, the code does NOT state that the
> institution must be 
> accredited. According to the code, criteria is
> whether it is giving 
> instructions as approved by the SBOE or by a
> “recognized accrediting 
> agency.”
> 
> Again, at the hearing there was no question of
> whether NSA was offering 
> an approvable course of study. In fact, when the
> board raised the 
> question of accreditation, NSA’s answer was that
> it was in the process 
> of becoming accredited and that the State treats it
> as if it is.
> 
> Why beat the definitions dead horse? The question
> this community now 
> needs to discuss is whether downtown is the
> appropriate place for ANY 
> school, college, or University.
> 
> Kit Craine
> Thus democracy died, stabbed in the back by false
> rumors and malicious 
> gossip.
> 
> On May 13, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
> 
> > Nobody said it was not a "college".
> >
> > Where do you get these straw-man arguments from?
> >
> > City Code defines three different types of
> educational
> > buildings. Trade/commercial schools, Schools, and
> > Educational Institutions.
> >
> > "Schools" are K-12.
> >
> > "Educational Institutions" are ACCREDITED
> universities
> > and colleges. We have one of them, it is called
> the
> > University of Idaho.
> >
> > NSA is neither of these.
> >
> > It does however, fit the definition of a
> > "Trade/commercial school".
> >
> > Trade schools ARE allowed downtown.
> >
> >
> > DO YOU GET IT!!  Do you understand? Please tell me
> you
> > do. I do not know how to make this more simpler?
> It is
> > so elementary.
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >
> >
> > --- J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On NSA's own site, they make it very clear they
> ARE
> >> a college:
> >>
> >> "Mitchell Stokes accepts new faculty position for
> >> Fall 2005"
> >>
> >> "Eighth Commencement, May 11, will honor 27
> >> graduates"
> >>
> >> "College has until June 2005 to buy a fully
> >> catalogued library--valued at $3
> >> million--for less than $300,000!"
> >>
> >>
> >> If they are not, they need to change their own
> >> information to the public,
> >> not to mention their name:
> >>
> >> "New Saint Andrews College".
> >>
> >> Can't have it both ways.
> >>
> >>
> >
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