[Vision2020] NSA not a college?

[Michael Curley]

Donovan:
I'm sorry, but you will have to explain it to me some more.  The word 
"college" is used in the definition of "educational institution" in 
the City Code.  It is not used in the definition of commercial 
school.  That is defined as "A program whereby instruction is given 
to pupisl in arts, crafts or trades and operated as a commercial 
enterprise."  
NSA is not a commercial enterprise.  It does not teach arts, crafts 
or trades, although if they have some art classes or music classes, 
that doesn't make it a commercial school any more than those classes 
make the UI a commercial school.  

On its website, NSA says:  "Our mission is to provide the highest 
quality undergraduate education in liberal arts and culture from a 
biblical worldview. "

Now you didn't respond to my prior comments, so I'm not sure what you 
think about the fact that NSA admitted in its response to the city 
that it most closely fits the educational institution definition.   
Or that the city administrator made a ruling several years ago that 
they are an educational institution.  I guess I'm not alone in not 
understanding it or not getting it.  New Saint Andrews might have 
benefitted if you had taken the podium and presented your argument 
Thursday night, although I'm not sure they particularly want to be 
known as a commercial school.  But then, that would not be a relevant 
issue, because they are what they are.  I'm afraid I remain 
unconvinced, as simple as you have made it for me to understand, but 
City Council inherits the next round, so perhaps they will be 
persuaded.  

I should probably note, though, that an appeal to Council will be on 
the "record" only.  There will not be a public hearing unless Council 
decides to suspend the Code or its rules.  Nothing is allowed to be 
added to the record after the Board adjourns, so it is pretty well 
set i think.

Mike



On 13 May 2005 at 20:11, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> Nobody said it was not a "college". 
> 
> Where do you get these straw-man arguments from?
> 
> City Code defines three different types of educational
> buildings. Trade/commercial schools, Schools, and
> Educational Institutions.
> 
> "Schools" are K-12. 
> 
> "Educational Institutions" are ACCREDITED universities
> and colleges. We have one of them, it is called the
> University of Idaho. 
> 
> NSA is neither of these.
> 
> It does however, fit the definition of a
> "Trade/commercial school".
> 
> Trade schools ARE allowed downtown. 
> 
> 
> DO YOU GET IT!!  Do you understand? Please tell me you
> do. I do not know how to make this more simpler? It is
> so elementary.   
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> 
> --- J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On NSA's own site, they make it very clear they ARE
> > a college:
> > 
> > "Mitchell Stokes accepts new faculty position for
> > Fall 2005"
> > 
> > "Eighth Commencement, May 11, will honor 27
> > graduates"
> > 
> > "College has until June 2005 to buy a fully
> > catalogued library--valued at $3 
> > million--for less than $300,000!"
> > 
> > 
> > If they are not, they need to change their own
> > information to the public, 
> > not to mention their name:
> > 
> > "New Saint Andrews College".
> > 
> > Can't have it both ways.
> > 
> >
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