[Vision2020] Dale Courtney

[Donovan Arnold]

David,

ASUI is an auxiliary department of the University but run by the students 
under the oversight of the University President. In other words, the UI 
President can tell ASUI what to do, cut or increase funding, or even disband 
it if he/she wanted to.

ASUI gets their funding from the University. It gets $45.40 for each full 
time student (12 credits or more). Only current, fee paying, undergraduate 
students at UI are members of ASUI.

The fees to run the Kibbie Dome do NOT come from the ASUI budget. They come 
from a variety of sources, other student fees, game tickets, donations, 
renting facilities, other colleges that pay us to play them, and the state 
government.

The reason the Kibbie Dome has the name ASUI in front of it has to do with 
the way it was funded back in the 1970s. Students helped fund part of the 
project of building it and established the original policy.

While ASUI should help determine policy regarding the ASUI Kibbie Dome now, 
it does not, anymore then Kibbie does, or Dan O'Brian controls the Dan O' 
Brian track and field with his name on it. The ASUI Constitution should 
apply to that building too. It could be argued either way. But in regards to 
the issue of religion, the policy is the same.

ASUI also funded all the computers in all the computer labs and helped with 
the building of the Student Union Building, the Idaho Commons Building, the 
Wallace Complex, and the Student Recreation Center. But as you can imagine 
we do not get to deny Jews the use of the Computers, Gays the use of the 
Ball Room, Vietnam Veterans the use of the Climbing wall, and the disabled 
use of the Common Grounds. We are forced to treat everyone equally (and I am 
glad too, because obviously some would try to deny others equal 
participation and use of the facilities when they paid for them).

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold






>From: "David M. Budge" <dave at davebudge.com>
>To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, timo5277 at uidaho.edu,        Donovan Arnold 
><donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Dale Courtney
>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:57:14 +0000
>
>Let me begin this by clearly stating that I don't have a dog in this hunt.  
>I couldn't give a ratsass whether Christ Church rents out the Kibbie Dome 
>or sets up tents at Pond 9 (does Pond 9 still exist Carl?).  So there, 
>that's said.
>
>So beyond the heartburn of your communities disconnect of the feuding 
>forces, I have a couple of questions:
>
>Assuming that the Kibbie Dome is "owned" by the ASUI, I have to ask what 
>exactly is the ASUI?
>
>Is it a not-for-profit group or an unincorporated association?
>
>Who are the owners?
>
>Are the owners the current students or all students who ever paid dues to 
>the ASUI (including me).
>
>Or perhaps, are the owners the public at large like non-profit corporations 
>are with only one member? (Think Gritman Hospital - this is a little 
>technical here but I'm sure the lawyers in the crowd know what I'm talking 
>about.)
>
>To the extent that the ASUI paid for the building of the Dome (and I take 
>this as a leap of faith as I can't remember - um - it's an age thing) did 
>the ASUI purchase the land on which the Dome sits from the foundation that 
>was established by the Land-Grant College Act?
>
>If the land wasn't purchased from the University of Idaho Foundation then 
>is the ASUI a tenant?
>
>As a tenant does the ASUI pay rent? (I know I'm heading off the wall here.)
>
>If the ASUI collects (sub)rent how is it disbursed to the owners?
>
>I don't know the answers to any of these questions.  I'm just trying to 
>figure out if you guys owe me any money or if I have to hide from you like 
>I do the rest of my creditors.
>
>db
>
>
>
>Andreas Schou wrote:
>
>>Donovan:
>>
>>Christ Church has the right to speak. No one disputes that.
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>>However, they do not have the right to borrow my megaphone. Kibbie
>>belongs to ASUI, which is not an agent of the state but a private
>>assocaiation. That's why they can charge the "no, it's not really a
>>tuition" that the state charges.
>>
>>-- ACS
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