[Vision2020] Shroud of Turin Questions

[J Ford]

Ms. Eiselein;

Nate Wilson is by no means a "guy...trying something that might explain how 
the shroud came into being".  By his own writing (which I have read) he 
states from the beginning his purpose and thoughts/intuition ran towards 
DIS-proving the Shroud's authentisity: "I would have liked to simply brush 
the issue of the Shroud aside, laugh and wonder why time was being wasted on 
the subject, but that was impossible."

He, like his father, clearly set out to break down anything they can't 
accept as being true due to what they constantly call "idolitry" - which 
translated into normal language means - "if I don't believe it, it ain't 
true."  CC members are repeatedly having this pounded into their heads every 
week either at Sunday service, Head of Household meetings, schools, any 
social gatherings, etc.  Believe me, it even permiates their "prayers".  And 
just in case a person doesn't understand their point of view in those 
venues, the elders are more than happy to come over to a home in groups of 3 
or more ("to make sure Matt 18 is being followed") to again reinterate the 
"church's stand on" a given issue.

You also brought up in a recent e-mail: "I can only say this: Your hatred is 
disturbing. What are you afraid of? Only fear could breed hatred that deep."

Fear - While it MAY induce a kind of "hatred" that you refer to; however, it 
mainly is just fear that is induced by members of the church.  I know many 
people who have left - may family included-, professional people as well as 
us "common" folk, that leave without telling anyone out of fear.  Those that 
do inform the church of their leaving are bombarded (as we are) with threats 
of damnation, condemnation, being called "intoleresta sympathisers", being 
rumored to be "gay" after all - or at least our children must be because 
they have never been seen to date, etc.   Hatred does not come into it from 
any other place but Mr. Wilson and his more ardent supporters.  Have you 
read his Blog and Malog trash?  HE uses the words hate and hatred in just 
about any of his writings.  HE is the one that hates - he hates to be shown 
he is wrong, he hates to told to back off, he hates those that don't follow 
HIS teachings, HE breeds hate for lifestyles he doesn't like...he simply 
hates, ok?  And those that follow him and his teachings have learned to hate 
just as hard and just as deeply.

When is the last time you heard ANYone on this forum even suggest that 
NSA/CC/Logas, etc. be burned down, distroyed, those that attend them need to 
be killed - soley because they don't accept a way of belief?  Now, THAT is 
something to be afraid of - not hated.



>From: "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Shroud of Turin Questions
>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:52:09 -0800


>
>I have a question, why hammer on this guy for trying something that might
>explain how the shroud came into being? To my knowledge no one else has
>tried it, and no one else seems to have an explanation.
>Or are we now slamming any curiosity that isn't done on campus?
>His experiment IS intriguing. But before discrediting it, as so many seem
>eager to do, what are the possibilites a piece of distortion free glass
>*may* have been made in medevial times? Not intentionally, mind you, just a
>fluke. Which brings me to my next question. Are the odds of that happening
>greater or less than winning Powerball, for instance?
>Seems to me that there may be a slight chance of this occuring. Stranger
>things have happened, after all Boston did win the Series.
>
>Kai T. Eiselein
>Editor
>Latah Eagle
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