[Vision2020] Trinty

[Art Deco]

How transparent can you get?

When will the big conversion take place?


Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hall" <mikehall at moscow.com>
To: "'Timothy Rigsby'" <timo5277 at uidaho.edu>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Trinity


> Tim,
>
> Thanks for your perspective.
>
> I would issue a personal challenge though.  I dare you to come to Christ
> Church this Sunday morning.  I will personally introduce you to Doug 
> Wilson
> and you can have a conversation with him.  During the service you will 
> also
> get an idea of what makes him tick.  I sincerely believe you will find 
> that
> there are a bunch of regular ole good people there on Sunday, and I think
> you will find Doug himself to be a decent guy.  If you're up for the
> challenge, I will meet you at the back of the Logos gym on A Street after
> the service.  I will be wearing a blue blazer, grey pants and a tie.
>
> Mike
>
> p.s. - as an aside and to provide more information, Christ Church, 
> contrary
> to what some may say, is a Reformed Evangelical church well within the
> mainstream of what that tradition has represented for hundreds of years.
> What has evolved over the years is the world we live in.  The views of the
> Bible are not in vogue anymore, in many parts of America at least.  Hence,
> when Pastor Wilson speaks and preaches that which has been proclaimed for
> millennia, he is vilified by many.  That's fine.  Doug's a big boy and he
> can handle it.  It's quite humorous that some would degenerate into name
> calling via terms like "cult" and the like.  Yet those at Christ Church, 
> as
> well as many, many folks throughout the Palouse not affiliated with Christ
> Church, know that such inflammatory rhetoric is not helpful to public
> discussion of issues that are near and dear to all of us.  But that is not
> their goal I suppose.  I won't speculate on the felt needs they are
> objectifying through their posts, but there are many in this community 
> that
> see through their façade.  And whether or not there is agreement or
> disagreement, their agenda is clear and it is not dialogue; it is not
> community; it is not good will towards all men...and women.  Well, enough
> with the side comments.  I hope you will rise to my personal challenge.  I
> remember my college days and the questions that were burning in my heart 
> at
> that time.  I hope you are still open-minded enough to consider that what
> you read on vision 2020 is not all reality...
> For more reading on the beliefs of Christ Church, visit
> http://www.christkirk.com and click on the "confession" link...here's a
> sample...
>
>
> I believe in God the Father Almighty; Maker of heaven and earth, and in
> Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the 
> Holy
> Ghost, and born of the virgin, Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was
> crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into Hades. On the third day
> He rose again, ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the
> Father; from thence He will come to judge the living and the dead. I 
> believe
> in the Holy Ghost, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the
> forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life 
> everlasting.
> Amen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Timothy Rigsby
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Trinity
>
> According to the Dean of Students office at UI, their mission includes the
> following statements:
>
> a) "Our purpose is to support the academic mission of the University and 
> to
> enhance
> the personal growth and civic responsibility of students."
>
> If this is the case then the Dean of Students needs to object to this 
> event
> because of
> the lack of support for the academic mission of the University, and the 
> idea
> that this
> event will not support the personal growth OR civic responsibility of
> students,
> except the students who protest I guess.
>
> b) "We promote educational and leadership experiences which prepare 
> students
> to
> serve their communities and respect the dignity of all persons."
>
> Again, the Dean of Students must object because this event does not 
> promote
> educational and leadership experiences.  This event definitely does not
> prepare
> students to serve their community, and obviously does not respect the
> dignity of all persons.
>
> "We believe..."
> c)  "Students have the right . . . to be treated with equity, honesty, and
> respect in
> all INTERACTIONS."  DOUG WILSON DOES NOT TREAT MINORITIES, WOMEN, OR 
> PEOPLE
> WHO OBJECT TO HIM WITH RESPECT!
>
> d)  "Students are valuable partners in decision-making activities 
> concerning
>
> issues that affect the quality of campus life."  OBVIOUSLY NOT SINCE THIS
> WAS SCHEDULED
> WITHOUT THE CONSENT OR KNOWLEDGE OF THE STUDENTS!
>
> e) "It is our duty to the people of Idaho to use resources responsibly." 
> IS
> THIS
> FESTIVAL USING UI'S RESOURCES WISELY?
>
> Just a few thoughts from a students perspective.
>
> Tim
>
>
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