[Vision2020] Time for Community Dishonesty
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Fri Jun 24 08:55:46 PDT 2005
Donovan,
My comment about the fruitlessness of debate with you means that I think
you're stubborn. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, and praise God if
that's the worst insult you've ever had to bear. Nonetheless, I'm sorry I
hurt your feelings.
I'm not interested in responding to each point of your screed, but I will
say this: As far as acts of dishonesty and cruelty that you believe I've
engaged in, please trust that I will forever be a harsher critic of myself
than you are. My conduct as a trustee and my posts on Vision 2020 have not
violated my conscience, and by God's grace that will continue. You are,
however, free to disagree.
Now, off to Safeway for a penitential can of Keystone Lite . . .
keely
From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, thansen at moscow.com,
vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Time for Community Dishonesty
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
Keely,
I am wondering if you could tell us more about this
God you keep speaking of.
Most people I know, Christians in particular, would
never praise people for their actions of bearing false
witness nor making cracks at people like, " Debating
with Donovan on this is about as fruitful as getting
an NSA student to drink Keystone Lite"
If it isn't a personal attack, or a lie, usually you
seem to have a hard time complimenting or approving of
the remark.
Another example of your dishonesty is when you told
the public that the proposed high school site did not
have wetlands.
A real Christian stands for the truth, honesty, and
attempts to shed the light of truth on statements of
others like when Rose Huskey accuses a person of
discriminating against children with disabilities when
they first, do not even control the decisions of the
school, and second, do not have the finances to be
able to offer adequate services to a child who
deserves the best resources they can get.
You say nothing when Joan Opyr, Wayne Fox, Tom Hansen,
Rose Huskey, and Saundra Lund say very mean hurtful,
atrocious things to other members of the community
about their person-hood. Would a true follower of
Christ sit back and befriend and praise Godless people
that ridicule their neighbors and rip them apart with
their cruel intentioned comments? Would Jesus lie
about the plans for a new school? Would Jesus say
nothing as his friends ridiculed, attacked, and made
jokes about people? Is that what your God tells you to
do Keely? Would Jesus Christ make excuses not to say
anything?
Remember Keely, anything you do to another person, any
injustice you can stop and choose not to, any cruel
intention, and any hurtful remark you praise or make
to another human is the same as doing it to Jesus
Christ himself, because everyone is his child that he
loves greatly.
Donovan J Arnold
--- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> Debating with Donovan on this is about as fruitful
> as getting an NSA student
> to drink Keystone Lite, but I would like to point
> out what is, I think,
> obvious to virtually everyone else:
>
> Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund don't have "followers."
>
> Now, it's true that Saundra and Rose have friends.
> They also have people
> who, while not knowing them personally, nonetheless
> find themselves admiring
> their efforts. And, of course, they have family
> members who are disposed to
> acknowledge them publicly. The same can be said of
> anyone who takes a
> stand, behaves with courage, and seeks justice.
> While it would be great if
> people who evince unusually high levels of humility,
> integrity, and
> intellect did indeed command a following, the
> evidence locally and
> nationally appears not to confirm that.
>
> keely emerine mix
> Friend of Rose and Saundra, follower of Christ, and
> not at all confused
> about the difference
>
>
>
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
> thansen at moscow.com,
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Time for Community
> Dishonesty
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Rose Huskey wrote: “On a personal level, I don't ask
> that Wilson and Christ Church members skedaddle.”
>
> More dishonesty?
>
> Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund disagree with the
> political and religious opinions of Doug Wilson, as
> do
> most people, but they are taking it a step further
> by
> seeking to destroy him and any organization
> associated
> with him by using lawyers to bankrupt him.
>
> The truth is explained by Joan Opyr (daughter-in-law
> of Rose Huskey)in her article in the online magazine
> New West Network, Church vs. Town: Secularists and
> Theocrats Battle in Moscow,
>
> “Huskey and Lund say that they believe a key
> component
> in interrupting what they describe as the bigotry
> and
> hatred preached by Doug Wilson is to focus attention
> on the financial aspects of Christ Church”
>
>
http://www.newwest.net/index.php/topic/article/685/C84/L40
>
> It does not sound to me like Rose is looking to
> “have
> a public dialogue about the real issues dividing our
> community,” as she likes to proclaim.
>
>
> Why not just be honest? They should just say they
> want
> Doug Wilson out of town and are going to do it
> anyway
> they can without landing themselves in jail. Most of
> their followers would admittedly be all in favor of
> stripping anyone associated with Christ Church of
> any
> first amendment rights in this community.
>
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
>
> --- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Amen. Better to repent than to relocate; I'm
> > praying for changed hearts,
> > not changed addresses.
> >
> > Thanks, Rose.
> >
> > keely
> >
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Time for Community Dialogue
> on
> > Church
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:51:31 -0700
> >
> > >From today's (June 23, 2005) Moscow-Pullman
> Daily
> > News with a very, very
> > special thanks and "thumbs up" to Rose "Moscow
> Rose"
> > Huskey.
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > Time for community dialogue on church
> >
> > Doug Wilson frequently claims that an unspecified
> > group of people want him
> > and, by extension, his church members, to leave
> > Moscow (Opinion, June
> > 18-19). I know many of the people who have
> publicly
> > opposed Wilson's defense
> > of southern slavery, his desire to replace
> current
> > laws with a return to the
> > Old Testament edicts, and his desire to\~strip
> the
> > vote from women in
> > exchange for a single\~vote from the male,
> > property-owning, "Head of
> > Household."
> > I have never heard any of those folks
> > philosophically\~opposed to such
> > absurd notions suggest that Doug Wilson and
> Christ
> > Church members should be
> > forced to leave Moscow. On a personal level, I
> don't
> > ask that Wilson and
> > Christ Church members skedaddle. I ask that they
>
> > obey city, state and
> > federal regulations. That is not an unreasonable
> or
> > bigoted request. It's
> > the same standard that I am expected to follow.
> >
> > Don't pack your bags, Doug. Instead, help
> community
> > members to understand
> > why New Saint Andrews College facilitates a chain
> of
> > illegal boarding
> > houses. Please share with us your understanding
> of
> > the federal tax exemption
> > given Canon Press. Explain to us why the Logos
> > School (a 501(c)(3) tax
> > exempt entity) has a policy which specifically
> > excludes "potential students
> > (who) require a separate classroom, program, and
> > staff in order to provide
> > the educational services desired by the parents.
> > E.g. Down syndrome,
> > deaf/mute, blind, etc." (Frankly, Doug, I'm not
> > happy to learn that my tax
> > dollars are used to support a Christian school
> that
> > discriminates against
> > mentally, physically, or emotionally challenged
> > children.) Doug, could you
> > tell us if there is gender discrimination in
> > teachers' salaries at Logos
> > School?
> >
> > Let's have a public dialogue about the real
> issues
> > dividing our community,
> > none of which include an agenda to exile Doug
> > Wilson. I encourage Doug
> > Wilson and Christ Church members to join in.
> >
> > Rose Huskey, Moscow
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > See y'all at the Kenworthy.
> >
> > Take care, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts
> to
> > improve the lot of
> > others, or strikes out against injustice, he
> sends
> > forth a tiny ripple of
>
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