[Vision2020] Time for Community Dishonesty

[Donovan Arnold]

"My conduct as a trustee and my posts on Vision 2020
have not violated my conscience, and by God's grace
that will continue.  You are, however, free to
disagree."

I am not in a position to know what your conscience
tells you, Keely. But I am curious how someone can
praise the words of someone that says some people are
trash. I thought, perhaps I a wrong because I am
shamefully ignorant of the Bible, that Christ called
upon his followers to denounce such words, not praise
them. 

Donovan J Arnold

PS, I am only stubborn when it comes to arguments
being illogical. Many people on V2020 and in our
community have convinced me of their way of thinking. 
But surprisingly, they do not do so with personal
attacks.

--- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:

> Donovan,
> 
> My comment about the fruitlessness of debate with
> you means that I think 
> you're stubborn.  That can be a good thing or a bad
> thing, and praise God if 
> that's the worst insult you've ever had to bear. 
> Nonetheless, I'm sorry I 
> hurt your feelings.
> 
> I'm not interested in responding to each point of
> your screed, but I will 
> say this:  As far as acts of dishonesty and cruelty
> that you believe I've 
> engaged in, please trust that I will forever be a
> harsher critic of myself 
> than you are.  My conduct as a trustee and my posts
> on Vision 2020 have not 
> violated my conscience, and by God's grace that will
> continue.  You are, 
> however, free to disagree.
> 
> Now, off to Safeway for a penitential can of
> Keystone Lite . . .
> 
> keely
> 
> 
> 
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
> thansen at moscow.com,        
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Time for Community
> Dishonesty
> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Keely,
> 
> I am wondering if you could tell us more about this
> God you keep speaking of.
> 
> Most people I know, Christians in particular, would
> never praise people for their actions of bearing
> false
> witness nor making cracks at people like, " Debating
> with Donovan on this is about as fruitful as getting
> an NSA student to drink Keystone Lite"
> 
> If it isn't a personal attack, or a lie, usually you
> seem to have a hard time complimenting or approving
> of
> the remark.
> 
> Another example of your dishonesty is when you told
> the public that the proposed high school site did
> not
> have wetlands.
> 
> A real Christian stands for the truth, honesty, and
> attempts to shed the light of truth on statements of
> others like when Rose Huskey accuses a person of
> discriminating against children with disabilities
> when
> they first, do not even control the decisions of the
> school, and second, do not have the finances to be
> able to offer adequate services to a child who
> deserves the best resources they can get.
> 
> You say nothing when Joan Opyr, Wayne Fox, Tom
> Hansen,
> Rose Huskey, and Saundra Lund say very mean hurtful,
> atrocious things to other members of the community
> about their person-hood. Would a true follower of
> Christ sit back and befriend and praise Godless
> people
> that ridicule their neighbors and rip them apart
> with
> their cruel intentioned comments? Would Jesus lie
> about the plans for a new school? Would Jesus say
> nothing as his friends ridiculed, attacked, and made
> jokes about people? Is that what your God tells you
> to
> do Keely? Would Jesus Christ make excuses not to say
> anything?
> 
> Remember Keely, anything you do to another person,
> any
> injustice you can stop and choose not to, any cruel
> intention, and any hurtful remark you praise or make
> to another human is the same as doing it to Jesus
> Christ himself, because everyone is his child that
> he
> loves greatly.
> 
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>  > Debating with Donovan on this is about as
> fruitful
>  > as getting an NSA student
>  > to drink Keystone Lite, but I would like to point
>  > out what is, I think,
>  > obvious to virtually everyone else:
>  >
>  > Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund don't have
> "followers."
>  >
>  > Now, it's true that Saundra and Rose have
> friends.
>  > They also have people
>  > who, while not knowing them personally,
> nonetheless
>  > find themselves admiring
>  > their efforts.  And, of course, they have family
>  > members who are disposed to
>  > acknowledge them publicly.  The same can be said
> of
>  > anyone who takes a
>  > stand, behaves with courage, and seeks justice.
>  > While it would be great if
>  > people who evince unusually high levels of
> humility,
>  > integrity, and
>  > intellect did indeed command a following, the
>  > evidence locally and
>  > nationally appears not to confirm that.
>  >
>  > keely emerine mix
>  > Friend of Rose and Saundra, follower of Christ,
> and
>  > not at all confused
>  > about the difference
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>  > To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
>  > thansen at moscow.com,
>  > vision2020 at moscow.com
>  > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Time for Community
>  > Dishonesty
>  > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
>  >
>  > Rose Huskey wrote: “On a personal level, I don't
> ask
>  > that Wilson and Christ Church members skedaddle.”
>  >
>  > More dishonesty?
>  >
>  > Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund disagree with the
>  > political and religious opinions of Doug Wilson,
> as
>  > do
>  > most people, but they are taking it a step
> further
>  > by
>  > seeking to destroy him and any organization
>  > associated
>  > with him by using lawyers to bankrupt him.
>  >
>  > The truth is explained by Joan Opyr
> (daughter-in-law
>  > of Rose Huskey)in her article in the online
> magazine
>  > New West Network,  Church vs. Town: Secularists
> and
>  > Theocrats Battle in Moscow,
>  >
>  > “Huskey and Lund say that they believe a key
>  > component
>  > in interrupting what they describe as the bigotry
>  > and
>  > hatred preached by Doug Wilson is to focus
> attention
>  > on the financial aspects of Christ Church”
>  >
>  >
>
http://www.newwest.net/index.php/topic/article/685/C84/L40
>  >
>  > It does not sound to me like Rose is looking to
>  > “have
>  > a public dialogue about the real issues dividing
> our
>  > community,” as she likes to proclaim.
>  >
>  >
>  > Why not just be honest? They should just say they
>  > want
>  > Doug Wilson out of town and are going to do it
>  > anyway
>  > they can without landing themselves in jail. Most
> of
>  > their followers would admittedly be all in favor
> of
> 
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